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Post  fshnski on Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:49 pm

It is now called SNAP. The Dems actually have people on the street looking to give away more of your money. Can you spell "recruitment"?
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Post  WHL on Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:09 pm

I know, isn't that just awful. Every time I hear any gov. ad about getting your free cards or phones or whatever, it makes me mad.

I heard the other night that it costs over 3 billion dollars a year to administer a program and I believe it was the food stamp program.
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Take some time and read this about government

Post  Donzel on Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:58 pm

Though we usually fail to notice it, government programs and policies improve our daily lives in innumerable ways.
Ask yourself this question: “What has government done for me lately?” If you are like most Americans, you will probably answer: “Not much.” Many people feel like they pay a lot in taxes but don't really get anything back from government. Surveys show that 52% of Americans believe that “government programs have not really helped me and my family.”  But let’s see if that is really true. Let’s examine a typical day in the life of an average middle-class American and try to identify some of the ways that government improves that person’s life during that 24-hour period.

6:30 a.m. You are awakened by your clock radio. You know it is actually 6:30 because the National Institute of Standards and Technology keeps the official time. And you can listen to your favorite radio station only because the Federal Communications Commission brings organization and coherence to our vast telecommunications system. It ensures, for example, that radio stations do not overlap and that stations signals are not interfered with by the numerous other devices – cell phones, satellite television, wireless computers, etc. – whose signals crowd our nation’s airwaves.
6:35 a.m. Like 17 million other Americans, you have asthma. But as you get out of bed you notice that you are breathing freely this morning. This is thanks in part to government clean air laws that reduce the air pollution that would otherwise greatly worsen your condition.
6:38 a.m. You go into the kitchen for breakfast. You pour some water into your coffeemaker. You simply take for granted that this water is safe to drink. But in fact you count on your city water department to constantly monitor the quality of your water and to immediately take measures to correct any potential problems with this vital resource.
6:39 a.m. You flip the switch on the coffee maker. There is no short in the outlet or in the electrical line and there is no resulting fire in your house. Why? Because when your house was being built, the electrical system had to be inspected to make sure it was properly installed – a service provided by your local government. And it was installed by an electrician who was licensed by your state government to ensure his competence and your safety.
6:45 a.m. You sit down to breakfast with your family. You are having eggs – a food that brings with it the possibility of salmonella poisoning, a serious food-borne illness affecting tens of thousands of Americans every year. But the chance of you getting sick from these eggs has now been greatly reduced by a recently passed series of strict federal rules that apply to egg producers.
7:00 a.m. You go into your newly renovated bathroom – one of a number of amenities that you enjoy in your house. But the fact that you can legally own your own house is something made possible by government. Think about this: “ownership” and “private property” are not things that exist in nature. These are legal constructs: things created by laws that are passed and enforced by government. You couldn’t even buy your home without a system of commercial laws concerning contracts and a government that ensures that sales contracts are enforced. So the fact that you live in your own home is, in part, a benefit of government and the rule of law.
7:01 a.m. Government also helps you own your house in more than the legal sense. On a more practical level, the federal government actually gives you money every year to help pay for your house. It’s called a mortgage interest tax deduction and it is one of the larger benefit programs run by the federal government – amounting to over $60 billion dollars a year. You can also deduct any real estate taxes you pay. These largely overlooked subsidy programs have enabled millions of people to buy their first home or to move up to a larger home than they could afford otherwise.
7:02 a.m. Back in the bathroom. You use the toilet and flush it. Your local government then takes care of transporting this waste, treating it, and disposing of it in an environmentally responsible manner – all without a second thought by you.
7:20 a.m. As you are getting dressed, a glance outside the window shows some ominous clouds. You check the weather on your TV. All these weather forecasts are made possible by information gathered and analyzed by the National Weather Service, a government agency. Every day, on your behalf, it takes in 190,000 weather observations from surface stations, 2,700 from ships, 115,000 from aircraft, 18,000 for buoys, 250,000 from balloons, and 140 million from satellites – all just to help you plan what to wear and make sure you don’t get stuck in a snow storm. And oh yes, this agency may save your life with its hurricane and tornado warnings.
7:30 a.m. Before you leave home, you take your pills to control your high blood pressure. But how do you know that this medicine is safe or effective? Without the testing required by the Food and Drug Administration, you wouldn’t. And without the vigilance of the FDA, you could easily fall victim to unscrupulous marketers of unsafe and worthless medicines.
7:45 a.m. You put a couple of letters in your mailbox. For less than the price of a cup of coffee, a government employee will come to your house, pick up the letters, and have them delivered in a few days to someone on the other side of the country. A pretty good deal.
7:50 a.m. You and your child walk across the lawn to your car and arrive without getting dog poop on your shoes. A small but welcome achievement that is made possible now by a local law that requires people to clean up after their pets. Also, the reason your neighborhood is not plagued by stray cats and dogs is that your local Animal Control officer is on the job dealing with this constant problem.
7:52 a.m. You help your young child into your car and you pull out of your driveway. You have now entered an experience that is improved by government in almost more ways that you can count. Driving your car is inherently dangerous. But it is made immensely safer by government laws and regulations, such as those mandating child safety seats and the use of seat belts – rules that have saved tens of thousands of lives. Driving down the street is also made much safer by a local government that enforces traffic laws and discourages people from driving too fast or driving drunk. Most state governments also minimize your risk of being run into by someone driving on bald tires or with faulty brakes by requiring regular inspections of all vehicles. And state driver’s license examinations ensure that all drivers are at least minimally competent and can actually see the road. In addition, if you are hit by another car, the potentially disastrous costs of an accident are covered because the government requires that all drivers to have auto insurance. In fact, without this extensive network of government laws and regulations covering automobiles and driving, it would be foolish for us to ever venture out on the road.
8:15 a.m. You drop your child off at day-care. It took a long search to find a good program and it is an expensive one, but it is worth it so you can feel confident that your child is in a safe, nurturing, and stimulating environment while you are at work. One of the reasons you can afford this program is the $3,000 child care tax credit you get from the federal government every year. Equally important, your child benefits from the fact that most state governments now enforce day-care requirements for group size, ratios of children per staff member, teacher training, nutrition, health, safety, and space requirements.
8:35 a.m. Your trip on the freeway is much safer due to federal restrictions on the number of hours that truck drivers can operate their vehicles without resting. Thousands of people die every year from truck-related traffic accidents, but it would be much worse without these regulations that keep sleepy truck drivers off the road.
8:55 a.m. You arrive at work and take the elevator. You just assume that the elevator is safe; and it is, thanks in part to the annual elevator inspections conducted by your state government. It is probably nothing you will appreciate until the next time the elevator breaks down with you inside, and that makes you think a bit more about the reliability of elevators.
9:00 a.m. While at work, your rights and wellbeing are constantly protected by a wide-ranging network of federal and state laws. The Occupation Safety and Health Act works to protect you from unsafe and unhealthy work conditions. Federal law protects you from workplace discrimination based on race, gender, religion, national origin, or disability. State laws may also require your employer to purchase worker’s compensation insurance so that you are covered in case you are injured on the job
Noon. For lunch you have your usual sandwich and microwaveable cup of soup. But why did you choose that particular soup? Perhaps because it was low in salt and fat. But how do you know that? Because the government requires all food packaging to have a truthful and easily readable panel on the label that supplies you with the nutritional information necessary to make a good choice. Food companies tell you what they want you to know about their products, but the Food and Drug Administration’s labeling requirements tell you what you need to know to eat in a healthy way.
How do you know the lettuce in your sandwich is not laced with unhealthy doses of pesticides? Because the Department of Agriculture has developed and is enforcing uniform standards for pesticide residue on raw foods.
Microwave ovens are potentially very dangerous machines, but you can use this one with confidence because of detailed government regulations that limit the maximum amount of radiation leakage and mandate two different safety interlocks that prevent its operation with the door ajar or open.
12:45 p.m. After lunch, you walk to a nearby ATM and get some cash out of your account – and your money is actually there. That wasn't always true during the economic depression of the 1930s when many banks failed. But your money is safe -- as it was during the recent financial and banking crisis -- because the government guarantees your deposits. In addition, those pieces of paper you put in your wallet are only worth something thanks to the federal government. Our monetary system is entirely a government creation, and the value of money is only maintained because the government regulates the money supply and protects it from counterfeiters. Quite an important service really.
1:00 p.m. Back at work you hear rumors about a new downsizing plan being talked about by management – a fairly typical occurrence in these days of heightened national and international corporate competition. You know your job is one that could be lost, but you also know that you will be eligible for state-mandated unemployment insurance should that happen. This is just another way that government helps you to cope with the economic risks and uncertainties of a modern economy.
3:00 p.m. On a break, you call your elderly mother in the hospital to check on how she is recovering from her broken hip. Thanks to Medicare, her medical expenses are covered and she does not have to worry about this becoming a financial disaster for her. Thanks to the federal Family and Medical Leave act, you will also have the right to take several days off to tend to your mother when she comes home from the hospital.
3:10 p.m. You call to arrange for a physical therapist to work with your mother when she comes out of the hospital, and again this is paid for by Medicare. And you can be reasonably confident that she will get good therapy because your state Department of Health has a program of examining and licensing these therapists in order to ensure the quality of their work.
5:00 p.m. You leave work—thanks to the government-mandated 40-hour workweek. Labor Department regulations prevent your company from making you work past 5:00 unless it pays you overtime.
5:15 p.m. You stop at a local gas station to fill up. The very fact that this oil company offers this gas to you for sale is dependent on the existence of certain government laws. This company would not do business in your town without a legal system that assures them that you will pay for any gas you pump into your car. This economic exchange – like buying your house – would not be taking place without a system of statutory and common law that protects private property and regulates sales transactions. This simple sale is covered by Article Two of the Uniform Commercial Code – dozens of pages of laws that regulate every phase of a transaction for the sale of goods and provide remedies for problems that may arise.
5:15 p.m. You pump 15 gallons of 87 octane gas into your car and pay for it. But how do you know that you really got 15 gallons, and not 14½? And that the gas was actually 87 octane? This is only ensured by the presence of that little sticker on the gas pump that shows that a worker from your city’s Division of Weights and Measures has inspected the pump and the gas. These public employees make sure that you get what you pay for – from a pound of sliced turkey breast to a carat of diamond – by constantly testing and inspecting all commercial meters and scales, and by verifying the accuracy of checkout scanners. This is a crucial service, since more than half of the income of the average family is used to purchase necessities bought by weight or measure or scanned at a checkout station.
5:15 p.m. How do you know the price you are paying for this gasoline is a fair and competitive one? In many states, the Department of Attorney General has been responsible for finding and prosecuting cases of price manipulation and price fixing by oil companies and distributors.
5:30 p.m. As you drive home, you notice the tree-lined streets and the nice houses in your neighborhood – generally a pretty good place to live. Thanks again to government. Without zoning rules, you might have an auto body shop or a fast-food outlet move in next door. Or worse yet, a fertilizer plant or a toxic waste site. But there are no noxious smells in the air, no excessive and dangerous traffic on your street – thanks to your government. Pleasant and livable neighborhoods are only possible with extensive government planning and zoning regulation.
5:35 p.m. As you approach your house, you see your child coming down the sidewalk. The government-provided sidewalk. The sidewalk that allows your child to walk to the neighbor’s house down the street to play with a friend without the risk of being hit by a car.
5:45 p.m. You go for a jog in your local public park.
6:30 p.m. You take your family out for dinner at a local pizza restaurant. You enjoy a good meal and no one gets sick from E. coli or other food-borne illnesses. This is in large part because your local government conducts regular inspections of all food establishments to protect the health of customers.
7:30 p.m. Back at your house. You settle in for a quiet evening at home – one that is undisturbed by those annoying telemarketers calling you up to try to sell you something. This is because you have signed up with a state or federal no-call registry – a government service now enjoyed by over 60 million Americans.
8:00 p.m. You do a quick check of your e-mail – just one of the many services you enjoy over the internet every day. We all tend to think of the internet as the product of those talented and imaginative entrepreneurs in the high-tech companies. But the internet actually began with government programs that created ARPANET and later NSFNET, early computer networking systems that developed the software and networking infrastructure that form the foundations of today’s internet. The government also helped to fund research that led to web browsers like Internet Explorer and search engines like Google.
11:00 p.m. You go to bed. During your sleep, you are protected by a smoke detector that your city requires to be installed in every residence. Maybe you would have bought one of these yourself, but this law helps to ensure that everyone is protected from the dangers of fire.
4:00 a.m. You are asleep in your comfy bed. Unlike that time you stayed in a small inn in Costa Rica, where you were woken up regularly at 4 in the morning by the roosters crowing in the neighborhood. By law, no one can keep roosters in your neighborhood and so you remain in blissful slumber.

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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  fshnski on Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:39 pm

No offense but that's pretty confusing. It reminds me of the article in the Washington Post about their new owner. The one about the 5 Myths.
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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:43 pm

Donzel wrote:4:00 a.m. You are asleep in your comfy bed. Unlike that time you stayed in a small inn in Costa Rica, where you were woken up regularly at 4 in the morning by the roosters crowing in the neighborhood. By law, no one can keep roosters in your neighborhood and so you remain in blissful slumber.
LOL - I could pick every single one of those apart, but that last one is precious.

My roosters and the roosters across the road call each other every morning.

I would not want to live in a place where the keeping of chickens was banned by law.

But all of that is nothing but a great vast monument to how far government is in our affairs every day.

And how much law you violate every day.

And it's all built on theft and extortion.

Because in the end, that's all taxation is: theft and extortion.
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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  Donzel on Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:52 pm

Why do we need to stand up for government? Because for decades, this valuable institution has been unfairly attacked and maligned by right-wing forces in this country. To make matters worse, parts of the mainstream media have eagerly joined in this government bashing. Hardly a day goes by on Fox News without one their conservative commentators gleefully lambasting "wasteful" social programs, "ridiculous" regulations, and the "socialist" politicians who support those "stupid" things.

Until now, those who have been attacking government have been doing a much better job than the few who have been trying to defend it. For example, Republicans have been waging their anti-government campaign on two fronts. First has been the attack on specific government programs, from welfare and Medicaid to environmental protection and business regulation. Second, and perhaps more important, has been the effort to delegitimize government itself – to convince Americans that government is a bad thing that should be limited whenever possible.

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Trampling Jefferson's "Pursuit of Happiness"

Post  News Hawk on Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:23 am

Anti Federalist wrote:LOL - I could pick every single one of those apart, but that last one is precious.
It's the Marketplace that protects us.
 
How many microwave ovens would be sold if they were dangerous?
 
BTW:
 
Extorted taxpayer money—where does the $2 Billion of Medicare Fraud disappear to—every year—in one Florida County?
 
Does the Social Security Administration know how many of the dead are cashing their checks?
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/caretaker-sentenced-collecting-dead-man-s-social-security-16-years
 
Does Immigration & Naturalization know how many foreigners are "overstaying their visas"?

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Canada Tells Us Like IT IS...

Post  News Hawk on Tue Aug 13, 2013 3:00 am



10) Only in America ... could politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a $35,000.00 a plate campaign fund-raising event.

9) Only in America ... could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when they have a black President, a black Attorney General and roughly 20% of the federal workforce is black while only 14% of the population is black.

40+ % of all federal entitlements goes to black Americans – 3X the rate that go to whites, 5X the rate that go to Hispanics !

8 ) Only in America ... could they have had the two people most responsible for our tax code, Timothy Geithner (the head of the Treasury Department) and Charles Rangel (who once ran the Ways and Means Committee), BOTH turn out to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes.

7) Only in America ... can they have terrorists kill people in the name of Allah and have the media primarily react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash.

6) Only in America ... would they make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege, while they discuss letting anyone who sneaks into the country illegally just 'magically' become American citizens.

5) Only in America ... could the people who believe in balancing the budget and sticking by the country’s Constitution be thought of as "extremists."

4) Only in America ... could you need to present a driver’s license to cash a check or buy alcohol, but not to vote.

3) Only in America ... could people demand the government investigate whether oil companies are gouging the public because the price of gas went up when the return on equity invested in a major U.S. oil company ( Marathon Oil) is less than half of a company making tennis shoes (Nike ).

2) Only in America ... could the government collect more tax dollars from the people than any nation in recorded history, still spend a Trillion dollars more than it has per year - for total spending of $7- Million PER MINUTE, and complain that it doesn't have nearly enough money.

1) Only in America ... could the rich people - who pay 86% of all income taxes - be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all.

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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  WHL on Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:17 am

I could pick every one apart too. And how in the world did we ever live before we had all these gov. rules and regulations to make us safe? How did we ever manage to grow up and survive??????
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Post  Donzel on Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:33 am

WHL wrote:I could pick every one apart too.  And how in the world did we ever live before we had all these gov. rules and regulations to make us safe?  How did we ever manage to grow up and survive??????
Read the constitution of the United States and it might help you understand what our government is all about. http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

"We the People  of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

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Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:47 am

Donzel wrote:Read the constitution of the United States and it might help you understand what our government is all about. http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

"We the People  of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
I have, many times. Too bad the first ten amendments get so roundly ignored.

Two questions:

1 - Is all taxation theft?

2 - How much government is enough?

Starting at today's baseline where: an average family of four pays over 50 percent of its income in direct and indirect taxation, more people are in prison in the US than any other nation on earth, both in raw number and per capita, Federal surveillance agencies monitor and record all electronic communications, the chief executive can, on his say so alone, strip you of citizenship, all legal protections and have you whisked off to foreign nation for torture and summary execution, the Federal government regulates people's lives down to the type of toilets and light bulbs we are "allowed" to have, and the Federal government is in debt over 16 TRILLION dollars.

Sure doesn't sound like the "blessings of Liberty" to me, especially for my posterity (that means, my kids) who are going to inherit a prison nation on a prison planet.

So, how much more government do you want?

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You Thought This Was Going to Be Easy?

Post  News Hawk on Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:50 am

Donzel wrote:
WHL wrote:I could pick every one apart too.  And how in the world did we ever live before we had all these gov. rules and regulations to make us safe?  How did we ever manage to grow up and survive??????
Read the constitution of the United States and it might help you understand what our government is all about. http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

"We the People  of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
 
Are you going to persist in being a cheerleader for a regime that is steering us towards Totalitarianism?
 
To those in Rio Linda, Totalitarianism means:
 
"One-Party Rule".
 
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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  Donzel on Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:55 am

Anti Federalist wrote:
Two questions:

1 - Is all taxation theft?

2 - How much government is enough?


Change section 8 the constitution if you don't like what it says:

"Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."


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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  News Hawk on Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:18 am

Where's the part about microwave ovens?

Cool 
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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:20 am

News Hawk wrote:Where's the part about microwave ovens?

Cool 
Or toilet bowls.
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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:25 am

Donzel wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:
Two questions:

1 - Is all taxation theft?

2 - How much government is enough?


Change section 8 the constitution if you don't like what it says:
You didn't answer either of my questions.

Nowhere in the finely delineated powers granted to the FedGov, is the authority to do 90 percent of the stuff that you posted as being so glorious in your OP on this subject.

Want to know the twisted "logic" that government used to "give" itself the power to do all that?

Read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wickard_v._Filburn

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Run by Idiots...

Post  News Hawk on Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:26 am

Anti Federalist wrote:
News Hawk wrote:Where's the part about microwave ovens?

Cool 
Or toilet bowls.
Or alarm clocks?
 
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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  WHL on Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:17 pm

Or cell phones.
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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  Donzel on Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:04 pm

You don't have to live in this country, you are FREE to move to just about any country in the world that will make you happy.

If you find that paradise, please let me know where it is.

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Re: Food stamps are over!

Post  fshnski on Tue Aug 13, 2013 1:32 pm

"If you find that paradise, please let me know where it is."

It used to be here in America. Way back when we were proud to be Americans. When honesty meant something. When we used to protect the innocent, not coddle every degenerate and criminal thug for their votes. We used common sense and fact rather than deceit, censorship and hyperbole. There once was a time where decisions were made in the best interest of the producing majority not for the burdensome non-contributive minorities.
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Post  Donzel on Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:15 pm

fshnski wrote:"If you find that paradise, please let me know where it is."

It used to be here in America. Way back when we were proud to be Americans. When honesty meant something. When we used to protect the innocent, not coddle every degenerate and criminal thug for their votes. We used common sense and fact rather than deceit, censorship and hyperbole. There once was a time where decisions were made in the best interest of the producing majority not for the burdensome non-contributive minorities.
I'm still proud to be an American.

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Post  fshnski on Tue Aug 13, 2013 2:18 pm

I find it a bit harder to accept what I know is wrong.
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Post  WHL on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:41 pm

Good post, fsh.
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Post  fshnski on Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:42 pm

Thank you.
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Post  News Hawk on Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:19 pm

Donzel wrote:I'm still proud to be an American.
Stalin still has crowds of USSR admirers who miss Central Planning. (That we're getting through Obama).
 
However...
 
I can understand—just barely—but whatever could happen to cause you to change your mind? Shocked 
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