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Post  WHL on Fri Mar 01, 2013 6:46 pm

So what does everybody think? Will we have a really early ice out, average, what?
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Post  News Hawk on Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:12 pm

March 23, 2013, 11:17½-AM.

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Post  WHL on Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:27 am

So is that an official guess? Then I guess I will have to make one too. I do think it will be earlier than average. Let's see, I'll say March 30th (although the first day that popped into my head was the 31-and isn't it always said that you should go with your first though?) at 2:15. I have never guessed before!
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Post  obervantone on Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:53 pm

Actually ice out was declared at 6:53 this morning.
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Post  News Hawk on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:12 pm

obervantone wrote:Actually ice out was declared at 6:53 this morning.

Is there enough light at that hour to make a determination of boater safety?

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Post  obervantone on Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:37 pm

Are you new to the lake? There's plenty of light at 6:53am.

LACONIA, N.H. (AP) - Here's a sure sign of spring: "Ice-out" has been declared on Lake Winnipesaukee.

WOKQ radio reports the pilot in charge of flying over New Hampshire's largest lake made the call at 6:53 a.m. Wednesday.

Ice out is declared when the M/S Mount Washington boat can safely travel between its ports without encountering ice.

Dave Emerson of Emerson Aviation said the temperature of the lake is about 40 degrees. Emerson said the third week of April is usually when ice out is declared. But last year, he had the earliest ice out recorded on March 23. The latest ice out was in 1888, on May 12.
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Post  News Hawk on Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:00 am

obervantone wrote:Are you new to the lake? There's plenty of light at 6:53am.

I'm hardly new to the lake, but bad things happen to boaters in the early-morning hours. Did Emerson Aviation actually take to the skies yesterday at that hour? Large chunks of ice could be hidden from an aerial view under lakefront canopies—"debris" is already a problem. Was there fog keeping the plane on the ground, so Emerson calls it in by cellphone?

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LACONIA, N.H. (AP) - Here's a sure sign of spring: "Ice-out" has been declared on Lake Winnipesaukee.

WOKQ radio reports the pilot in charge of flying over New Hampshire's largest lake made the call at 6:53 a.m. Wednesday. Dave Emerson of Emerson Aviation said the temperature of the lake is about 40 degrees. Emerson said the third week of April is usually when ice out is declared. But last year, he had the earliest ice out recorded on March 23.
"Made the call" isn't the same thing as "flying over the lake at 6:53-AM and 'making the call'".
"In-charge-of" isn't the same thing as "flying over the lake at 6:53-AM and 'making the call'".

This reporting could be much more specific. How would they know if Emerson isn't actually telephoning WOKQ "calling Ice-Out" from his bedside?

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The latest ice out was in 1888, on May 12.
Not too many aircraft were available in 1888. Somebody had to make that determination from a boat, by local knowledge, or by telecommunications, as the roadways of yesteryear weren't like today's.

(Apples and oranges, IOW).

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Post  WHL on Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:50 am

That's true. Ice out was not always declared when the Mount could make it's trip. Don't ask me what it was, but it wasn't that. And it was not done by plane.
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Post  obervantone on Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:29 am

Okay News Hawk, for the rest of us it is ICE OUT, however your property will remain locked in ice until you personally can inspect all areas of the lake. Sunrise on Wed was 5:59am.
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Post  News Hawk on Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:58 pm

obervantone wrote:Sunrise on Wed was 5:59am.
Sunlight in northern climes is slow to increase: it's brighter in the sub-tropics an hour after sunrise (than New England).

obervantone wrote:Okay News Hawk, for the rest of us it is ICE OUT, however your property will remain locked in ice until you personally can inspect all areas of the lake. Sunrise on Wed was 5:59am.

After lunch—from FATP:

"We hit 3 fish on Tuesday in Winter harbor, saw maybe 20 square yards of ice that floated out of Johnsons Cove....otherwise open water which was 37-38.5 COLD degrees..."
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Post  obervantone on Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:16 pm

Wed April 17, 2013 6:53am Wayyyyyy to dark to see isn't it?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Emerson-Aviation/131847876851023#!/photo.php?fbid=511276575574816&set=a.511276568908150.1073741835.131847876851023&type=1&theater


April 17. 2013 11:10AM

UPDATE: Ice-out declared for Winnipesaukee

By LARISSA MULKERN
Special to the Union Leader


GILFORD - Ice-out on Lake Winnipesaukee was declared at 6:53 a.m. Wednesday.
Pilot Dave Emerson of Emerson Aviation flew over the big lake this morning. Ice-out is declared when all ports of the M/S Mount Washington are clear of ice, and Emerson has traditionally been the person to make that declaration for many years.
Milder temperatures melted some large chunks of ice that had lingered in Wolfeboro Bay this week.

The winner of the annual Ice Out guessing contest sponsored by Winnipesaukee.com has not yet been declared, however. To correct a reference in an earlier report, the latest ice-out has been declared was on May 12, 1888, the first year of recordkeeping.

Emerson said Tuesday that ice-out typically occurs the third week of April.

Previous story follows:
The Ice Out declaration for Lake Winnipesaukee is expected any time now.

Pilot David Emerson of Emerson Aviation circled the skies over Lake Winnipesaukee on Tuesday afternoon and while The Broads area of the big lake were clear, some chunks of ice were seen clustering in Wolfeboro Bay, at Keniston and Melody islands, with floating ice around Three-Mile Island in Center Harbor.

"Right now, Wolfeboro Bay is the last hold out," said Emerson, who reported that strong winds out of the south were blowing ice towards the bay. Ice was clustering at the larger dock where the M/S Mount Washington docks in Wolfeboro.

On Tuesday, Emerson said he would fly over the lake once more in late afternoon, and at first light on Wednesday. He anticipated that Ice Out would be called within 12 to 24 hours, or on Wednesday.

According to winnipesaukee.com, a plentiful online resource for data, web cams and blogs related to Lake Winnipesaukee, Ice Out occurs when the ice that has covered the Lake since late December or early January melts enough to allow the M/S Mount Washington cruise ship to navigate among Alton Bay, Center Harbor, Weirs Beach, Meredith and Wolfeboro.

"Ice Out is greatly anticipated by residents and visitors since it is the traditional start of the spring season and many Islanders regain water access to their cottages," according to the site. The site also hosts the annual "Ice Out" Guess Contest, where contestants declare the date and time when the lake will be clear.

According to the site, the date has been observed and recorded since 1888.

The setting of the exact date and time is non-scientific and is now determined by an observer in a small plane from Emerson Aviation - usually Dave Emerson - who flies over the lake several times a day. When the pilot makes the Ice Out call it is considered official.

Emerson said Ice Out during the third week of April is "very normal." Last year, Ice Out was declared on March 23, the year prior on April 19. The earliest Ice Out was the first, recorded on May 12, 1888.
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Post  WHL on Sat Apr 20, 2013 4:02 pm

obervantone wrote:Okay News Hawk, for the rest of us it is ICE OUT, however your property will remain locked in ice until you personally can inspect all areas of the lake. Sunrise on Wed was 5:59am.


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