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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Jan 06, 2014 1:19 am

"We don't have time for this!" announces Hero Cop as he executes 18 y/o - 90 pound kid by shooting him in the back while his Hero Pals hold him down.


UPDATE: Family says officers shot and killed son

http://www.wect.com/story/24367610/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-boiling-spring-lakes

BOILING SPRING LAKES, NC (WECT) - Emergency crews are on the scene of an officer involved shooting at a home in Boiling Spring Lakes.

The State Bureau of Investigation has been called to the incident at the request of District Attorney Jon David, according to a spokesperson for the Brunswick County Sheriff's Office. She said sheriff's deputies were assisting BSL police with the initial response to a home on President Drive.

At the scene, Mark Wilsey said officers shot his son.

Wilsey said his family called the police to help with his schizophrenic son Keith Vidal who had a screwdriver in his hand. Officers tased the son then shot him, according to Wilsey.

Wilsey said officers came into their home after they called for backup help when Vidal was having a schizophrenic incident.  

Wilsey said officers had his son down on the ground after the teen was tased a few times and an officer said, "we don't have time for this", and shot in between the officers holding the teen down and killed him.

"There was no reason to shoot this kid," Wilsey said. "They killed my son in cold blood. We called for help and they killed my son."

The family said police shot Vidal because he had a screwdriver in his hand. They said it was a tiny screwdriver that would not have hurt anyone.

Both parents said they had to watch their son die in front of them. They said Vidal had just turned 18 years old and only weighed 90 pounds.

Vidal's mother, also at the scene, said she could not understand what happened.

"Where is the justice, why did they shoot my son?," she asked. "This is what's wrong with our mental health system."

The family said they recently lost their daughter in a car accident and this is the second child they will have to bury.

Neighbors on the scene told WECT that Vidal played with their children and he never was violent.  They said he had a history of depression and schizophrenia, but he was never harmful to others.

Vidal's mother said she had tried multiple times to get Keith help for his mental illness. Emergency services treated her for a breakdown at the scene.

Details from officers on the scene are limited at this time, so stay with this story for the latest updates.
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Post  News Hawk on Mon Jan 06, 2014 4:54 am

Anti Federalist wrote:"We don't have time for this!" announces Hero Cop as he executes 18 y/o - 90 pound kid by shooting him in the back while his Hero Pals hold him down.


UPDATE: Family says officers shot and killed son

http://www.wect.com/story/24367610/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-boiling-spring-lakes

BOILING SPRING LAKES, NC (WECT) - Emergency crews are on the scene of an officer involved shooting at a home in Boiling Spring Lakes.

The State Bureau of Investigation has been called to the incident at the request of District Attorney Jon David, according to a spokesperson for the Brunswick County Sheriff's Office. She said sheriff's deputies were assisting BSL police with the initial response to a home on President Drive.

At the scene, Mark Wilsey said officers shot his son.

Wilsey said his family called the police to help with his schizophrenic son Keith Vidal who had a screwdriver in his hand. Officers tased the son then shot him, according to Wilsey.

Wilsey said officers came into their home after they called for backup help when Vidal was having a schizophrenic incident.  

Wilsey said officers had his son down on the ground after the teen was tased a few times and an officer said, "we don't have time for this", and shot in between the officers holding the teen down and killed him.

"There was no reason to shoot this kid," Wilsey said. "They killed my son in cold blood. We called for help and they killed my son."

The family said police shot Vidal because he had a screwdriver in his hand. They said it was a tiny screwdriver that would not have hurt anyone.

Both parents said they had to watch their son die in front of them. They said Vidal had just turned 18 years old and only weighed 90 pounds.

Vidal's mother, also at the scene, said she could not understand what happened.

"Where is the justice, why did they shoot my son?," she asked. "This is what's wrong with our mental health system."

The family said they recently lost their daughter in a car accident and this is the second child they will have to bury.

Neighbors on the scene told WECT that Vidal played with their children and he never was violent.  They said he had a history of depression and schizophrenia, but he was never harmful to others.

Vidal's mother said she had tried multiple times to get Keith help for his mental illness. Emergency services treated her for a breakdown at the scene.

Details from officers on the scene are limited at this time, so stay with this story for the latest updates.

Now that "recreational use" of marijuana is legal in Colorado, watch for an increase in schizophrenia there.

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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:06 pm

News Hawk wrote:Now that "recreational use" of marijuana is legal in Colorado, watch for an increase in schizophrenia there.

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And an increase in summary executions by cop?
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Post  News Hawk on Mon Jan 06, 2014 7:09 pm

'Could happen...

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Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:28 am

News Hawk wrote:'Could happen...

 Arrow 

'Cos nothing says freedom like government enforcers putting bullets in people indiscriminately.

I shouldn't complain...an Authoritarian Police State is a small price to pay to live in a free country.
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Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Jan 07, 2014 1:34 am

That's what the Heroes who did this to Kelly Thomas said:

"It was drug induced schizophrenia".



Only one problem...toxicology reports taken both before and after he died showed no drugs or alcohol of any kind in his system.
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Post  News Hawk on Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:55 am

Anti Federalist wrote:
Only one problem...toxicology reports taken both before and after he died showed no drugs or alcohol of any kind in his system.

...but a history of drug abuse since age 15—including methamphetamines.

http://longisland.news12.com/news/trial-ending-for-officers-in-homeless-death-case-1.6746553

Just how did you all those childhood "glue-sniffers" would end up?

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Post  WHL on Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:19 am

Anti Federalist wrote:
News Hawk wrote:'Could happen...

 Arrow 

'Cos nothing says freedom like government enforcers putting bullets in people indiscriminately.

I shouldn't complain...an Authoritarian Police State is a small price to pay to live in a free country.

He says with the greatest of sarcasm---------
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Post  Achigan on Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:54 am

It's sad to someone constantly posting stuff like this. What ever happened in your life that wants/makes you talk about this all the time?

How do you sleep at night thinking that people are after you?
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Post  News Hawk on Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:12 am

Let's watch Colorado's experience.

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Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:04 pm

News Hawk wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:
Only one problem...toxicology reports taken both before and after he died showed no drugs or alcohol of any kind in his system.

...but a history of drug abuse since age 15—including methamphetamines.

http://longisland.news12.com/news/trial-ending-for-officers-in-homeless-death-case-1.6746553

Just how did you all those childhood "glue-sniffers" would end up?

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So, you're OK with this?

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Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:07 pm

Achigan wrote:It's sad to someone constantly posting stuff like this.  What ever happened in your life that wants/makes you talk about this all the time?

How do you sleep at night thinking that people are after you?

If the people that just had their son executed by cop right in front of them had listened to people like me, then their son would probably still be alive today.

Now, go off and take your Prozac and hot tea and find some articles about how Hillary the Redeemer will save us all.
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Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:17 pm

Updated orginal story...new evidence is supporting the family's claims:



NEW DETAILS: 911 report shows officer shot teen seconds after arriving

Posted: Jan 05, 2014 12:51 PM CST Updated: Jan 07, 2014 12:18 PM CST

http://www.wect.com/story/24367610/officer-involved-shooting-reported-in-boiling-spring-lakes

BOILING SPRING LAKES, NC (WECT) - A detective from the Southport Police Department is on paid administrative leave after an officer involved shooting that happened at a home in Boiling Spring Lakes Sunday afternoon.

According to Chief Dove, Detective Byron Vassey was placed on leave in connection to his involvement in the shooting, though Dove would not confirm if Vassey was the one who pulled the trigger.

Vassey has been employed at the Southport Police Department since December 2004. This is the first time he's been placed on administrative leave.

Boiling Spring Lakes Chief Brad Shirley says none of his officers are on leave after Sunday's incident. The responding officer for his department was Officer John Thomas.

The District Attorney's Office held a news conference Monday afternoon to discuss the incident. The family said they were not invited to the press conference, but showed up anyway with signs, pictures and posters hoping for justice for their lost loved one.

According to a spokesperson for the District Attorney's Office, deputies were called to assist officers with the Boiling Spring Lakes Police Department with an initial response to a home on President Drive.

At the scene, Mark Wilsey said officers shot his son.

According to David, three officers were involved in the incident, but he couldn't release their names due to an ongoing investigation by the SBI that he and the leaders of the three agencies that responded to the scene requested.

David would not release any details about the investigation, but a Brunswick County event report revealed new information about the officer who shot and killed Vidal.

According to the report, the first unit on scene was a Boiling Spring Lakes officer who arrived at 12:34 p.m. He was joined shortly after by two additional BSL officers and a Brunswick County Sheriff's Deputy.

The first unit on scene reported a confrontation in the hallway, but told Brunswick County Dispatchers several times that everything was OK.

Unit 104 from Southport arrived on the scene at 12:48:41, fourteen minutes after the first officer had already been on scene.

Seventy seconds later, Unit 104 radioed out that he had to fire shots at the subject in order to defend himself.


The event report mirrors what family members told the media.

Wilsey said his family called the police to help with his son Keith Vidal who has schizophrenia and had a small screwdriver in his hand. Officers used a Taser on Vidal and then shot him, according to Wilsey.

Wilsey said officers came into their home after they called for backup help when Vidal was having a schizophrenic incident.

Wilsey said officers had his son down on the ground after the teen was tased a few times and an officer said, "we don't have time for this." That's when Wilsey says the officer shot in between the officers holding the teen down, killing his son.

"There was no reason to shoot this kid," Wilsey said. "They killed my son in cold blood. We called for help and they killed my son."

The family said police shot Vidal because he had a screwdriver in his hand. They said it was a tiny screwdriver, though, that would not have hurt anyone.

Both parents said they had to watch their son die in front of them. They said Vidal had just turned 18 years old and only weighed about 90 pounds.

Vidal's mother, also at the scene, said she could not understand what happened.

"Where is the justice, why did they shoot my son?," she asked. "This is what's wrong with our mental health system."

According to David, investigators responded to the scene immediately and began working as a team to start gathering evidence. The district attorney said investigations area a search for the truth, and he's confident that everyone involved will find the truth.

The family said they recently lost their daughter in a car accident and this is the second child they will have to bury.

Neighbors said Vidal played with their children and he never was violent. They said he had a history of depression and schizophrenia, but he was never harmful to others.

Vidal's mother said she had tried multiple times to get Vidal help for his mental illness. Emergency services treated her for a breakdown at the scene.

Vidal was apparently a student at South Brunswick High School. According to a spokesperson for the school, a crisis team was at the high school Monday to offer support for students and staff.
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Post  News Hawk on Tue Jan 07, 2014 3:23 pm

Anti Federalist wrote:"...So, you're OK with this...?"

Police unions have given the individual police officer a lot more power—plus a "free" attorney from the first misstep.

With a history of getting high, this outcome was not just regrettable, but inevitable.

IMO. 

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Post  Anti Federalist on Fri Jan 10, 2014 11:53 pm

"This officer who shot my son needs to be behind bars," said Vidal's mother, Mary Wilsey. "He needs to die the way my son died."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/10/us/north-carolina-teen-killed/
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NOT Guilty...

Post  News Hawk on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:10 pm

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Post  Achigan on Mon Jan 13, 2014 8:25 pm

This just tore me apart. It made me sick. Why did they beat this poor guy to death.

Anti you need to do something about this.
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Post  Anti Federalist on Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:38 am

Achigan wrote:This just tore me apart.  It made me sick.  Why did they beat this poor guy to death.

Anti you need to do something about this.

Nothing much I can do, other than what I'm doing and have been doing for years: raising as much hell about the problem as I can.

They beat Kelly Thomas to death because they could.

They knew what the likely outcome would be.

The Thomas family will now sue and more than likely win a multi million dollar settlement at taxpayer expense.

And those asshole cops will go right on being asshole cops.

Maybe this can be an "ah hah" moment for you, Achigan.

I am not a "partisan" guy, I think I made that pretty clear...I am an anti "authoritarian" guy. I oppose new or expanded government power instinctively. Because when the rubber meets the road, that is what happens when you give government power.

Cops beat people to bloody pulps, killing them, and get away with it.

That is the ultimate government power trip, and that explains every Caesar, King, Dictator and Strong Man since mankind first figured out how to bash his fellow homo erectus over the head with a bone.

Justified.

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Post  WHL on Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:53 am

Anti, I have the funniest feeling Achigan was not being genuine.
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Post  Achigan on Tue Jan 14, 2014 8:13 am

It's Ok to have funny feelings I guess.
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How Columbia Handles Its Crazies...

Post  News Hawk on Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:17 am

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Post  News Hawk on Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:09 pm

WHL wrote:Anti,  I have the funniest feeling Achigan was not being genuine.  

...and maybe giving up his "Super-Secret" identity!

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Post  Anti Federalist on Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:41 pm

WHL wrote:Anti,  I have the funniest feeling Achigan was not being genuine.  

Who knows...I'm going to assume that he has the same human decency that all of us have, in the face of unwarranted and unjustified violent death, and I answered in a sincere manner.


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Post  WHL on Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:10 pm

Anti Federalist wrote:
WHL wrote:Anti,  I have the funniest feeling Achigan was not being genuine.  

Who knows...I'm going to assume that he has the same human decency that all of us have, in the face of unwarranted and unjustified violent death, and I answered in a sincere manner.

Yes, you are a very sincere person. I know that.
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