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Post  Achigan on Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:37 pm

Where the heck is everybody going to live. The left and Right political parties as well as the preachers are having a field day booting people they don't like out of their State and even the country.
 
Gov. Pat McCrory (R-NC) claimed this weekend that gutting the state’s unemployment benefits has sent people back to where “they came from,” presumably because they moved to the state only to collect “very generous benefits” for unemployment.
 
He's even waving goodbye to them... Laughing  Laughing  Laughing 
 

 
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/01/14/3160411/mccrory-unemployment-migration/
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Post  WHL on Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:01 pm

You are sure right, this country is VERY divided!!!
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Post  Anti Federalist on Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:48 pm

Yup, very divided.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo: Pro-life, pro gun people not welcome in New York

http://washingtonexaminer.com/new-york-gov.-andrew-cuomo-pro-life-people-not-welcome-in-new-york/article/2542475

Secession, please.
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Post  WHL on Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:45 am

i agree, Anti. There is no coming together in beliefs in this country. It has never been this divided in my memory at least.
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Post  Anti Federalist on Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:01 pm

WHL wrote:i agree, Anti.  There is no coming together in beliefs in this country.  It has never been this divided in my memory at least.

It would make everybody happier.
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Post  WHL on Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:10 pm

It would. I would be happy to have them live in their world and we can live in ours. We would then be able to prove who has the better ideas, wouldn't we!!??!!
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Post  Anti Federalist on Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:12 pm

WHL wrote:It would. I would be happy to have them live in their world and we can live in ours.  We would then be able to prove who has the better ideas, wouldn't we!!??!!

We already proved that in NH.

And got overrun by Massholes.

God help people in North Carolina suffering from the halfback invasion.

NYC mayor "Red" DiBlasio agrees with Cuomo by the way - GTFO.

Secession, please.



De Blasio Backs Cuomo: Wants Conservatives to Get Out

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/23/De-Blasio-Backs-Cuomo-100-Percent

New York Mayor Bill de Blasio emphatically backed New Governor Andrew Cuomo’s controversial remarks that “extreme” conservatives – which he defined as being pro-life, second amendment advocates, or supporters of traditional marriage – “have no place in the state of New York.”

“I stand by that 100 percent,” de Blasio told reporters at the U.S. Conference of Mayors in Washington, D.C. on Thursday.

“I agree with Governor Cuomo’s remarks. I interpret his remarks to say that an extremist attitude that continues the reality of violence in our communities or an extremist attitude that denies the rights of women does not represent the views of New York State,” he added.

Governor Cuomo riled up conservatives in New York state as well as all over the country when he told a local New York State radio program last Friday “extreme conservatives who are right-to-life, pro-assault-weapon, anti-gay....have no place in the state of New York, because that’s not who New Yorkers are.”

The remarks have snowballed into a major controversy, with Fox News host Sean Hannity vowing to leave New York City, prompting a bidding war between Republican governors to persuade him to move to their states. Hannity is reportedly eyeing a political bid in Texas. At the March for Life yesterday, one participant pushed back at Cuomo, telling Breitbart News, "We're here, we're pro-life, get used to it."

De Blasio conceded that “we all understand there’s a right to free speech. I wouldn’t disagree with that right and neither would Governor Cuomo.”

But exercising that free speech could put you on the wrong side of New York “values,” de Blasio maintained. “I think he’s saying that the attitude of those who want to continue the status quo on guns or want to challenge and deny the right to choose does not reflect the values of New Yorkers. He was absolutely right to say what he said,” de Blasio stated.

When asked by a reporter if he does not feel the need to reach out to those who disagree with him and would rather others share his values instead, de Blasio responded, “The first point is, we represent our people and Governor Cuomo is right and I believe I’m on firm ground in saying our people, the people in New York State and the people of New York City reject extremists views against a women’s right to choose and in favor of the proliferation of guns in our society. And I stand by that 100 percent.”

De Blasio is under fire in New York for the city's disastrous response to the recent snow storm, which prompted questions about why he was in front of the television cameras in D.C. instead of working to fix the roads back home. De Blasio admitted Wednesday "more could have been done."

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Post  News Hawk on Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:24 pm

Anti Federalist wrote:

NYC mayor "Red" DiBlasio agrees with Cuomo by the way - GTFO.

Secession, please.



De Blasio Backs Cuomo: Wants Conservatives to Get Out

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/23/De-Blasio-Backs-Cuomo-100-Percent

New York Mayor Bill de Blasio emphatically backed New Governor Andrew Cuomo’s controversial remarks that “extreme” conservatives – which he defined as being pro-life, second amendment advocates, or supporters of traditional marriage – “have no place in the state of New York.”

Seen on the Internet:

They bring “HOPE” & “CHANGE” outwardly, but secretly they despise you and want your destruction.

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Post  Anti Federalist on Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:10 pm

So, I'm curious what the prog patrol thinks of secession.

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Post  Achigan on Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:22 pm

Anti Federalist wrote:So, I'm curious what the prog patrol thinks of secession.

 
I don't muddy my mind with such nonsense.
 
If someone doesn't like the "United" States of America then get the hell out of it and go to another country of your choice... and good luck young man... Simple as that.
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Post  Anti Federalist on Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:33 pm

Achigan wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:So, I'm curious what the prog patrol thinks of secession.

 
I don't muddy my mind with such nonsense.
 
If someone doesn't like the "United" States of America then get the hell out of it and go to another country of your choice... and good luck young man... Simple as that.

So, if a state, or group of states, were to vote to leave the union, you would be in favor of sending in the troops and killing them?

How very enlightened and progressive.
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Post  Anti Federalist on Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:37 pm

Take This State And Shove It: The New Secession Movement

by Alan Greenblatt
October 28, 201311:30 AM

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/10/24/240497465/take-this-state-and-shove-it-the-new-secession-movement


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Post  Anti Federalist on Sun Jan 26, 2014 1:53 pm

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Post  Achigan on Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:29 pm

Anti Federalist wrote:
Achigan wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:So, I'm curious what the prog patrol thinks of secession.

 
I don't muddy my mind with such nonsense.
 
If someone doesn't like the "United" States of America then get the hell out of it and go to another country of your choice... and good luck young man... Simple as that.

So, if a state, or group of states, were to vote to leave the union, you would be in favor of sending in the troops and killing them?

How very enlightened and progressive.

Where did I say that?? I said if "someone". I also said "I don't muddy my mind with such nonsense." That means I haven't given it much thought.

I just don't understand what is so wrong with the "United" States. I've been to a lot of countries and nothing compares with how we live here.

You dwell on the negative as if that is all there is to this country. Why don't you just pack up and leave...I don't get it???

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Post  News Hawk on Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:39 pm

Achigan wrote:
I just don't understand what is so wrong with the "United" States.  I've been to a lot of countries and nothing compares with how we live here...

We've dropped beyond #10.

Are you suggesting that you've been to Estonia?

I've looked across the border at Czechoslovakia, and stared down the barrel of The Union of Soviet Socialist Republic's tanks.  

Yet you suggest that "the time is right" to adopt a Socialist destination for this country.

My Dad would be outraged that his co-pilot was machine-gunned beside him to bring us to this "End".

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Post  Anti Federalist on Sun Jan 26, 2014 2:50 pm

Achigan wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:
Achigan wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:So, I'm curious what the prog patrol thinks of secession.

 
I don't muddy my mind with such nonsense.
 
If someone doesn't like the "United" States of America then get the hell out of it and go to another country of your choice... and good luck young man... Simple as that.

So, if a state, or group of states, were to vote to leave the union, you would be in favor of sending in the troops and killing them?

How very enlightened and progressive.

Where did I say that??  I said if "someone".  I also said "I don't muddy my mind with such nonsense."  That means I haven't given it much thought.

I just don't understand what is so wrong with the "United" States.  I've been to a lot of countries and nothing compares with how we live here.

You dwell on the negative as if that is all there is to this country.  Why don't you just pack up and leave...I don't get it???

What is wrong is that there are two vastly different views on what the future of the country should be.

They are completely and diametrically in opposition to one another.

When a nation gets to a juncture like that, it usually, if history is any guide, tears itself apart in a bloody civil war.

I've been around the world, by sea, twice, and have seen many other nations as well.

And in almost every case, the oppression, poverty and social upheaval that they suffer through was caused by adopting laws and polices that we seem hell bent on adopting here.

I'm trying to prevent that, as well as provide a place for all us reactionary rednecks to go to.

Besides, wouldn't you folks like "our kind" being out of your hair?

Imagine it, One Party Rule, with no obstructionist reactionaries mucking things up.

Let us go, in peace, and a progressive utopia awaits just around the corner for you.
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Post  Achigan on Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:10 pm

This country will always need checks and balances and I wouldn't have it any other way.

If you think "secession" is the answer to all of your problems then you have my vote to go ahead and do it.

You won't have oppression, poverty, or social upheaval because everyone will work together in harmony and think exactly alike.

Sounds good to me. When is this all going to take place and what states are going to do it?
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Post  Anti Federalist on Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:20 pm

Achigan wrote:This country will always need checks and balances and I wouldn't have it any other way.

So then why do you bitch about it all the time?

If you think "secession" is the answer to all of your problems then you have my vote to go ahead and do it.

Well, good.

You won't have oppression, poverty, or social upheaval because everyone will work together in harmony and think exactly alike.

Unlikely, people being people and all. What we'll have is freedom.

Sounds good to me.  When is this all going to take place and what states are going to do it?

Inter-moutain west and Northern New England states currently have the most active secession movements.

My ideal dream is to see French Quebec break off from Ottawa, thus providing a barrier between them and the Maritimes of Canada.

Break away VT, NH and ME and join with them into the "Atlantic Alliance" or some such.
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Post  Achigan on Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:50 pm

Between you and NH I don't know who hallucinates the most. Too funny!!  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 
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Post  News Hawk on Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:31 pm

Anti Federalist wrote:"...My ideal dream is to see French Quebec break off from Ottawa, thus providing a barrier between them and the Maritimes of Canada..."

The Maritimes will sue to get us united. That's been discussed for at least twenty years.

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Post  Anti Federalist on Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:54 pm

Achigan wrote:Between you and NH I don't know who hallucinates the most.  Too funny!!  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

And what sort of drugs are you on, to think that the political borders of a country stay static, now and forever, world without end, hallelujah amen?
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Post  News Hawk on Mon Jan 27, 2014 4:04 am

Anti Federalist wrote:
Achigan wrote:Between you and NH I don't know who hallucinates the most.  Too funny!!  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

And what sort of drugs are you on, to think that the political borders of a country stay static, now and forever, world without end, hallelujah amen?

I don't think that he knows where The Maritimes are, although "he's been around the world twice by sea".

Doesn't that mean traveling by Carnival Lines?

 Laughing 

But would The Maritimes want to be joined with the United States? Their Parliamentarians couldn't cross the border to get the world's best health care any longer.

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Achigan may know of The Maritimes as Acadia or Atlantica. 

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Post  WHL on Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:37 am

It would be so nice to have our freedoms once again. I would love it!
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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:29 pm

News Hawk wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:
Achigan wrote:Between you and NH I don't know who hallucinates the most.  Too funny!!  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

And what sort of drugs are you on, to think that the political borders of a country stay static, now and forever, world without end, hallelujah amen?

I don't think that he knows where The Maritimes are, although "he's been around the world twice by sea".

Doesn't that mean traveling by Carnival Lines?

 Laughing 

But would The Maritimes want to be joined with the United States? Their Parliamentarians couldn't cross the border to get the world's best health care any longer.

 Sad 

Achigan may know of The Maritimes as Acadia or Atlantica. 

study 

LOL - I'm the one who's been around the world by sea.

I doubt very much that the Maritimes would want to join the US.

It would be more like ME, NH and VT joining them.

Think about it...lumber, minerals, coal, oil, gas...we'd get access to all of George's and Grand Banks again...ice free ports.

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Post  News Hawk on Mon Jan 27, 2014 2:31 pm

Achigan wrote:"...  Too funny...!!  Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

There's nothing "funny" about the Dims beginning the attack on our efforts in Iraq.

Remember Hillary's "General-Betray-us", and "We have lost the war in Iraq".

Obama's done nothing to "bring us together as a nation".

Have we ever been as "divided" since the Civil War?

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