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Post  WHL on Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:40 am

This is proving to be a welfare program MORE each and every day.  What a joke.
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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  News Hawk on Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:56 am

WHL wrote:The latest tidbit I heard is that Obama insured all the prisoners so that he could meet the 7 million quota.  I couldn't believe it!!!

Not just that, but the names "captured" will mean more Democare voters in subsequent elections.

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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  News Hawk on Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:54 pm

WHL wrote:How do you know WHO is lying?

Obama has an unlimited bankroll to promote and hype DemoCare:

http://washingtonexaminer.com/gop-lawmakers-believe-over-1-billion-spent-to-promote-obamacare/article/2546910?custom_click=rss

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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  Outerlimits on Tue Apr 08, 2014 1:50 pm

News Buzzard wrote:...Me too, especially in Kentucky!!

Kentucky huh?

In the Morgan Stanley Survey:

U.S. sees sharpest health insurance premium increases in years according to a Morgan Stanley survey of insurance brokers. The investment bank’s survey of brokers found that the average premium increase for customers renewing an insurance plan is 12% higher in the small group market and 11% higher in the individual market.The hikes are “largely due to changes caused from the Obamacare [Affordable Care Act],” analysts concluded.
Rates have been growing increasingly fast throughout all of 2013. Among the states seeing the sharpest increases are several with competitive Senate races including: New Hampshire forecast to suffer a 90-percent rate increase for individual plans, Colorado, Michigan, Georgia and Kentucky.

How do you feel a 90% increase will sit with the smart people of New Hampshire?
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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:54 pm

That's a very sketchy article. Do you know anyone whose insurance premiums went up 90%, and what kind of coverage did they have prior to the hike? Government insurance coverage (Cigna) went up a little over 6% in the state.

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Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:58 pm

Republicans have already agreed to changes in the law:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/wsj-editorial-conservatives-obamacare

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Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:54 pm


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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  News Hawk on Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:13 am

News Buzzard wrote:9.3 million newly insured, and counting!       Very Happy 

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-rand-20140408,0,6208659.column#axzz2yKlGwLlt

Rather amazing that those who did not sign up in time must now wait until January 1, 2015 before they can enroll.

The law says that they are not entitled to insurance for one year. I guess in the meantime they'll have to simply maintain the status quo: check into the ER, and receive FREE care just like always!

(Guess that's what the President meant when he said it's "affordable")

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Post  News Hawk on Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:48 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Republicans are calling it Democare now because they don't want Obama's name attached to a law they know will be successful!

The following report makes Obama's repeated phrase:
"You can keep your health plan" even worse than a LIE.


An extensive accounting of more than 50,000 commercials by Kantar Media’s Campaign Media Analysis Group, which tracks political advertising, has determined that the single most-aired campaign ad of the past 10 years was a 30-second spot for Sen. Barack Obama attacking Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on his health-care plan. “McCain would tax health benefits for the first time ever” “His plan would raise costs for employers offering health care, so your coverage would be reduced or dropped completely.”
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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  WHL on Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:58 am

Hmmmmmmmmm
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Post  News Buzzard on Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:54 am

The Union Leader contributes many a chapter to the Right Wing Book Of Mythology!

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/10/nh-union-leader-uses-flawed-study-to-attack-oba/198839

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Post  News Buzzard on Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:27 pm

Republicans are starting to realize that Obamacare is not the end of the world:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gallup-poll-obamacare-affect-me

I'll never convince anyone around here of that, but I don't have to!    Very Happy

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Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:33 am

Obamacare will be cheaper than originally thought:  Very Happy 

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/04/14/3426408/cbo-obamacare-cheaper/

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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  WHL on Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:34 am

You hear just the opposite of what I hear.
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Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 15, 2014 9:23 am

WHL wrote:You hear just the opposite of what I hear.

Of course you have a better source than the Congressional Budget Office! (not)   Rolling Eyes

This year is the last gasp of opposition for Republicans, but Obamacare will blow them away in 2016 when 26 million people have health insurance because of it!    cheers

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Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:00 pm

Insurers see brighter Obamacare skies, and Minuteman Health is moving into New Hampshire:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/04/health-insurers-obamacare-105676.html?hp=t1

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Post  News Hawk on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:01 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Obamacare will be cheaper than originally thought:  Very Happy 

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/04/14/3426408/cbo-obamacare-cheaper/

“Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.”

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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  News Hawk on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:27 pm

"...If you assume that 80 percent of signer-uppers will eventually pay their premiums, the true number of previously uninsured exchange enrollees is likely closer to 2 million. That’s far from what the Congressional Budget Office has projected; the CBO estimated that 80 to 90 percent of the first-year enrollees would come from the previously uninsured population. Instead, it appears to be more like 24 to 36 percent..."
—Forbes

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http://freebeacon.com/issues/obamacare-only-enrolled-1-4-million-previously-uninsured-individuals/

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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:39 pm

From the Full Report within your post: 9.3 million more people have health care coverage:

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR656.html

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Post  Outerlimits on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:41 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Obamacare will be cheaper than originally thought:  Very Happy 

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/04/14/3426408/cbo-obamacare-cheaper/


They don't think paying IRS agents and overshooting by 600 million on a website isn't and shouldn't be included in the budget.  affraid 


Instead of the program costing $1.487 trillion, the CBO now says it will cost $1.383 trillion.

That is saving us money?

Liberal fanatics are desperately trying to pretend that a program that heaped an additional $1.383 on the already staggering U.S. deficits, is somehow "cutting" a deficit somewhere.

The degree to which these people lie and fake their "facts" is astounding sometimes.

5 million people who had their policies canceled and signed up on the exchanges are considered "newly insured".

The CBO actually counts them and adds them to the ranks of the increase in insurance.

I cannot believe. Actually I can believe it. Notice they try to spin it and also say covered through Medicaid and CHIP.

Trust me. The vast majority getting policies canceled aren't going on Medicaid. They have to re-sign up on the exchanges and they would count as newly insured according to the CBO. The White House has refused to acknowledge this as part of their 7 million sign ups. - another LIE
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Re: Not really 7 million previously uninsured on Obamacare

Post  WHL on Tue Apr 15, 2014 2:42 pm

News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:Obamacare will be cheaper than originally thought:  Very Happy 

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/04/14/3426408/cbo-obamacare-cheaper/

“Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.”

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Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:01 pm

Outerlimits wrote:5 million people who had their policies canceled and signed up on the exchanges are considered "newly insured".

That's typical Right Wing Mythology! The number is most likely under a million!

http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR656.html

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Post  Outerlimits on Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:37 pm

Still trying to sell something the people clearly don’t want or like.

Nothing has changed and Obamacare has never had a favorable approval rating.

You’re telling us Obama is doing a great job yet…

There are more people living in welfare under Obama.
There are more people without health insurance under Obama.
There are more people without a job under Obama.
We are paying more for energy than any time in our history.
We are paying more for food than any time in our history.
The Federal Government is collecting more taxes than in any time in our history…

BUT SOMEHOW:

Our debt will increase 10 trillion under Obama.

How is this GOOD?

The left wing Moonbats have taken over the Democrat party.

What's the saying…

“If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything."

With no principles to guide them, too many dems simply fall right in line with their elected politicians like good little sheep.

I am sorry your little god lied to you.
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Post  News Buzzard on Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:25 pm

Not a chance in hell for repeal!      Razz

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Post  WHL on Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:04 pm

You should have heard Cavuto analyze it. After you subtract all the freebies, there are about a million that signed up that are actually paying something.
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