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Post  News Hawk on Fri Jun 27, 2014 5:53 pm

News Buzzard wrote:It's nice the way you crow about the economy in 2004 before Bush drove us off the cliff.

The Liberals—and not Bush—sat on their hands, thinking they were doing "good things" by allowing "toxic loans". Today, you can get a "toxic loan", brought to you by Obama.

Bush warned Congress many times of the disaster that the CRA was about to bring to the US and the rest of the entire world! Chuckie Schumer, in practice, brought the disaster to the attention of Bush's Socialist enemies.

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Re: Obama Recession

Post  WHL on Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:22 pm

Just read an article saying all the jobs during Obama's term have gone to immigrants.
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Post  News Pigeon on Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:43 pm

Laughing Link pls...............

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Re: Obama Recession

Post  WHL on Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:22 pm

Study: All Employment Growth Since 2000 Went to Immigrants
By NRO Staff
June 26, 2014 7:22 PM
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According to a major new report from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), net employment growth in the United States since 2000 has gone entirely to immigrants, legal and illegal. Using data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, CIS scholars Steven A. Camarota and Karen Zeigler found that there were 127,000 fewer working-age natives holding a job in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000, while the number of immigrants with a job was 5.7 million above the 2000 level.

The rapidity with which immigrants recovered from the Great Recession, as well as the fact that they held a disproportionate share of jobs relative to their share of population growth before the recession, help to explain their findings, the authors report. In addition, native-born Americans and immigrants were affected differently by the recession.

Other significant findings include:

Because the native-born population grew significantly, but the number working actually fell, there were 17 million more working-age natives not working in the first quarter of 2014 than in 2000.
The share of natives working or looking for work, referred to as labor force participation, shows the same decline as the employment rate. In fact, labor force participation has continued to decline for working-age natives even after the jobs recovery began in 2010.
Immigrants have made gains across the labor market, including lower-skilled jobs such as maintenance, construction, and food service; middle-skilled jobs like office support and health care support; and high­er-skilled jobs, including management, computers, and health care practitioners.
The supply of potential workers is enormous: 8.7 million native college graduates are not working, as are 17 million with some college, and 25.3 million with no more than a high school education.
According to the study, 58 million working-age natives are not employed.

Camarota and Zeigler report three conclusions:

First, the long-term decline in the employment for natives across age and education levels is a clear in­dication that there is no general labor shortage, which is a primary justification for the large increases in immigration (skilled and unskilled) in the Schumer-Rubio bill and similar House proposals.
Second, the decline in work among the native-born over the last 14 years of high immigration is consis­tent with research showing that immigration reduces employment for natives.
Third, the trends since 2000 challenge the argument that immigration on balance increases job oppor­tunities for natives. Over 17 million immigrants arrived in the country in the last 14 years, yet native employment has deteriorated significantly.
The Center for Immigration Studies is a non-profit research institute. Founded in 1985, the organization is regularly consulted by policymakers, the academic community, and the media on matters of immigration policy.




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Post  News Pigeon on Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:43 pm

Sorry, I don't find your source to be credible. The Founder of CIS, John Tanton is a man known for his racist statements about Latinos, his decades-long flirtation with white nationalists and Holocaust deniers, and his publication of ugly racist materials. CIS' creation was part of a carefully thought-out strategy aimed at creating a set of complementary institutions to cultivate the nativist cause -- groups including the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and NumbersUSA. As is shown in Tanton's correspondence, lodged in the Bentley Historical Library at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Tanton came up with the idea in the early 1980s for "a small think tank" that would "wage the war of ideas."

ABC News published a story which quoted several members of the anti-immigrant Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) but failed to disclose the organization's ties to nativist John Tanton, who is affiliated with a designated hate group, and ignored the organization's well-established credibility problems.

On January 14, ABC News reported on a conference held by CIS, which attacked "legalization programs for undocumented immigrants":

   Analysts from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), a think tank that advocates reduced immigration levels and stricter enforcement of current immigration laws, said today that legalization programs for undocumented immigrants typically lead to fraud and increased illegal immigration.

ABC provided a platform for CIS representatives to voice their opposition to a variety of proposed immigration measures, but ABC failed to provide background on CIS, despite the group's long history of anti-immigrant rhetoric, ties to nativist organizations, and lack of credibility.  

The Center for Immigration Studies was started in 1985 by John Tanton, an anti-immigrant nativist with ties to other anti-immigrant organizations such as NumbersUSA and the Federation for American Immigration Reform, a Southern Poverty Law Center-labeled hate group. From the Southern Poverty Law Center:
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/01/15/abc-news-leaves-out-key-details-of-anti-immigra/192245

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Post  News Buzzard on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:26 am

We shouldn't let facts get in our way, News Pigeon !

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Re: Obama Recession

Post  WHL on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:38 am

No, don't let facts get in your way by all means.  We all know you two only get your "facts" from MSNBC, CNN, the drive by media, NYTimes, etc.  Any other source in your minds, is incorrect.
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Post  News Hawk on Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:08 am

WHL, are you aware that only your contributions mention the word "illegal"?

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Re: Obama Recession

Post  News Pigeon on Sun Jun 29, 2014 9:56 am

News Hawk wrote:WHL, are you aware that only your contributions mention the word "illegal"?

scratch

Her source can say anything you want it to, the fact is, it's not a credible source of info therefore not to be taken as fact!
Got it?
Most credible sources (some even right-leaning) say the entire opposite....how do you explain that one away???

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Re: Obama Recession

Post  WHL on Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:34 am

Link please.
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Post  News Pigeon on Sun Jun 29, 2014 1:15 pm

Here's a few to chew over, although I know you won't bother because your request wasn't about getting facts it was about being immature.....nah nany nany nah!
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