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Post  News Buzzard on Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:04 pm


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'Sounds like a good way for a town to get sued!

Post  News Hawk on Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:18 pm

News Buzzard wrote:......To fill up at the socialist gas station !  Surprised 
'Sounds like a good way to get rid of R-15!

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Post  News Hawk on Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:11 pm

News Buzzard wrote:......To fill up at the socialist gas station !  Surprised 

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-town-opens-filling-station-public-150442278.html

What did Government-run casinos do for Atlantic City, NJ?

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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:40 am

I didn't know the government ran the casinos in Atlantic City. Donald Trump owns a couple of them!

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Post  News Hawk on Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:33 am

News Buzzard wrote:I didn't know the government ran the casinos in Atlantic City. Donald Trump owns a couple of them!

A new board is taking over:

The proposed board would include "business people that know how to make business happen, not government," Sweeney said during an hour-long interview Wednesday with the Inquirer Editorial Board.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20140724_A_nonprofit_board_to_help_rebuild_Atlantic_City_.html#xrXqVRBXkTLYEJQh.99

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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:51 am

I fail to see any notion in that article that Atlantic City's problems are the fault of government! It appears that competition around the region is causing the decline. Isn't that a result of capitalism? People would rather go to Foxwoods than Atlantic City. I've been to Atlantic City several times and if there was any blame on the part of government it's for not living up to their promises. The folks in AC were promised lots of money toward a renewal of the entire city, but the renewal didn't extend past one block off the boardwalk. Now the politicians down there are suggesting legalized gambling in northern New Jersey, with the idea of kicking back some of the revenue toward Atlantic City. How on God's earth is that feasible? Politics in New Jersey and New York is a mess. Just look at the adventures of Chris Christie!

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Post  News Hawk on Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:31 pm

News Buzzard wrote:......To fill up at the socialist gas station !  Surprised 

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-town-opens-filling-station-public-150442278.html

This is a better solution than forcing someone who doesn't drive to pay for a portion of someone else's fuel?

The best idea you have is for Government to steal from everyone and give it to certain individuals?


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Post  red_hill on Fri Jul 25, 2014 9:09 am

News Buzzard wrote:......To fill up at the socialist gas station !  Surprised 

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-town-opens-filling-station-public-150442278.html

People like free stuff and bargains, regardless of at what cost to other services or people.

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Post  News Buzzard on Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:31 pm

red_hill wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:......To fill up at the socialist gas station !  Surprised 

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-town-opens-filling-station-public-150442278.html

People like free stuff and bargains, regardless of at what cost to other services or people.

I think that's the overwhelming problem with this country. There are too many people out for themselves, regardless of the consequences.

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Post  red_hill on Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:39 pm

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red_hill wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:......To fill up at the socialist gas station !  Surprised 

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-town-opens-filling-station-public-150442278.html

People like free stuff and bargains, regardless of at what cost to other services or people.

I think that's the overwhelming problem with this country. There are too many people out for themselves, regardless of the consequences.

Tell that to the people that actually pay income taxes at the rate required by law.

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Post  News Buzzard on Fri Jul 25, 2014 12:56 pm

I've said many times that I'm up for a flat tax, but Republican Congressman Camp's proposal went down like a lead sinker. I would love to see folks like Mitt Romney paying 25% instead of his usual 13% on $15 million annually. I've been saying for years that the Bush tax cuts were a disaster, and that's the reason why we now have so many people not paying any taxes. Our economy was in terrific shape during the Clinton tax rate years, whether you liked Clinton or not. There was money flowing all over the country for infrastructure projects during Clinton's term, and something close to 20 million jobs were created. Clinton left behind a balanced budget and a debt load of $5.5 trillion. Then along came Bush.....

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Post  red_hill on Fri Jul 25, 2014 1:54 pm

News Buzzard wrote:I've said many times that I'm up for a flat tax, but Republican Congressman Camp's proposal went down like a lead sinker. I would love to see folks like Mitt Romney paying 25% instead of his usual 13% on $15 million annually. I've been saying for years that the Bush tax cuts were a disaster, and that's the reason why we now have so many people not paying any taxes. Our economy was in terrific shape during the Clinton tax rate years, whether you liked Clinton or not. There was money flowing all over the country for infrastructure projects during Clinton's term, and something close to 20 million jobs were created. Clinton left behind a balanced budget and a debt load of $5.5 trillion. Then along came Bush.....

I think you need to look at debt as a percentage of GDP- that is where the current occupant of the White House falls down. I would be fine with a flat income tax, but prefer a national sales tax instead. I paid an effective rate of 23.7% last year IIRC

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Post  News Buzzard on Fri Jul 25, 2014 2:23 pm

I'm not going there with blaming Obama on our debt. Our national debt is a result of 2 wars, massive tax cuts and the worst recession since the Great Depression. There is no re-writing history in my book.

A Republican governor in Kansas is going to get his ass kicked in November by a Democrat because of his scorched earth austerity policies, and the national Republican ideology is nothing more than Kansas times 50. We might see up to 6 Republican governors losing this November, and rightfully so!

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Post  WHL on Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:21 pm

Our debt went from what? 9 trillion to 17 trillion under Obama and IT IS NOT HIS FAULT??????????
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Post  News Hawk on Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:33 pm

News Buzzard wrote:I've said many times that I'm up for a flat tax, but Republican Congressman Camp's proposal went down like a lead sinker. I would love to see folks like Mitt Romney paying 25% instead of his usual 13% on $15 million annually. I've been saying for years that the Bush tax cuts were a disaster, and that's the reason why we now have so many people not paying any taxes. Our economy was in terrific shape during the Clinton tax rate years, whether you liked Clinton or not. There was money flowing all over the country for infrastructure projects during Clinton's term, and something close to 20 million jobs were created. Clinton left behind a balanced budget and a debt load of $5.5 trillion. Then along came Bush.....
It was the Leader of the House that kept Clinton in the black.

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Post  News Buzzard on Fri Jul 25, 2014 8:42 pm

WHL wrote:Our debt went from what?  9 trillion to 17 trillion under Obama and IT IS NOT HIS FAULT??????????

Of course it isn't Obama's fault! Who signed the tax cuts? Who started the wars? Who announced that our financial system was about to collapse? It wasn't Obama, he's just the scapegoat for the right wingers, but despite their all out lying assault on him he got reelected! That's pretty cool!

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Post  WHL on Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:44 am

You are so right, it wasn't what Clinton wanted, it was what the Congress wanted, so Clinton HAD to go along or be a failure like Obama is. I have to give Clinton credit, he was smart enough to hire people to tell him to go along with Congress, not fight them. He started out very left, which the country didn't like and therefore went to a conservative Congress. When that happened, Clinton's liberal ideas had to go. That is why he was a successful president. He needs to thank Congress.
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Post  News Buzzard on Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:00 am

You forget the most important component, the Clinton Tax Rates, which Bush destroyed. There was plenty of money around to put back into the country back then, and the Republicans hadn't been hijacked by the group of extremists we now call the Tea Party. The good news is the Tea Party is fading. Governor Brownback may lose to a Democrat in the Red state of Kansas, and the US Chamber of Commerce is turning their backs on the Tea Party. I can think of 4 Republican governors, Le Page, Scott, Corbett and Brownback who have a good chance of losing, and there are several others who are on the ropes. The scorched earth policy of austerity is not what it's cracked up to be and people are finally starting to realize it! Also, I don't think the Republicans will take the Senate.

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Post  News Buzzard on Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:24 am

News Hawk wrote:It was the Leader of the House that kept Clinton in the black.

It was the very same Republicans who quickly ran the country into the ground under Bush, with 2 multi trillion dollar wars, massive tax cuts, unfunded Medicare prescription drug program, the doubling of the Pentagon budget, and a whole new empire called Homeland Security. The solution is easy; just blame the black guy!  No

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Post  News Hawk on Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:46 pm

News Buzzard wrote:......To fill up at the socialist gas station !  Surprised 

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-town-opens-filling-station-public-150442278.html

A discount of 3 cents a gallon doesn't sound like they're going to stay in business. (Not that they should).

I'd close my convenience store business and take my case to Civil Court for damages.

An investigation may show that relatives in nearby towns may have a role to play. (Not that corruption appears only in small towns).

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Post  News Hawk on Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:54 pm

News Buzzard wrote:It was the very same Republicans who quickly ran the country into the ground under Bush, with 2 multi trillion dollar wars, massive tax cuts, unfunded Medicare prescription drug program, the doubling of the Pentagon budget, and a whole new empire called Homeland Security. The solution is easy; just blame the black guy!  No
What has Obama changed in six years?

BTW, did you read that ISIS is demanding that the female citizens of Mosul (Iraq) undergo mandatory "Clitorectomies". (Mosul is under ISIS rule).

In evacuating Iraq as promised, today there is a real "War on Women" where Obama has opened the doors to Islam's EVIL ways, and strengthened Iran's hand with nuclear weapons. (Mass Destruction usually follows).

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Post  WHL on Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:30 pm

News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:......To fill up at the socialist gas station !  Surprised 

http://news.yahoo.com/kentucky-town-opens-filling-station-public-150442278.html

A discount of 3 cents a gallon doesn't sound like they're going to stay in business. (Not that they should).

I'd close my convenience store business and take my case to Civil Court for damages.

An investigation may show that relatives in nearby towns may have a role to play. (Not that corruption appears only in small towns).

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That is disgusting. I would be so mad if I had a gas station in that town. I hope they fail big time which I am sure they will. Too bad the tax payers have to pay for it though.
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Post  News Buzzard on Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:42 pm

News Hawk wrote:What has Obama changed in six years?

Instead of losing 800,000 jobs a month, because of the failed Bush economy, we are gaining 200,000 jobs a month. That's a change of a million jobs a month!

Instead of being involved in 2 disastrous wars we are involved in none.

Instead of running an annual $1.4 trillion deficit, brought to us by the mismanagement of George W Bush, we are now running a $450 billion deficit and improving


News Hawk wrote:In evacuating Iraq as promised, today there is a real "War on Women" where Obama has opened the doors to Islam's EVIL ways, and strengthened Iran's hand with nuclear weapons. (Mass Destruction usually follows)

We were invited to leave Iraq by the thug George W Bush put in place as prime minister.

How much money did Cheney's Halliburton make from Iraq?

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Post  News Hawk on Sat Jul 26, 2014 5:51 pm

News Buzzard wrote:How much money did Cheney's Halliburton make from Iraq?

Probably about as much as when Clinton selected Halliburton himself. Rolling Eyes The alternative was to out-source to a French corporation.  (But you knew that from the first time I advised you).

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Leaving "Blame-Bush", I found more details on that gas station:

The city spent $200,000 to purchase the fuel storage facility a few years ago, the AP reported, and shelled out another $75,000 to convert the facility into a retail operation.

Some criticized the move, with one convenience store owner saying, ”They’ve used the taxpayer money that I have paid them over these years to do this, to be against us. I do not see how they can’t see that as socialism.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/21/the-way-this-city-is-tackling-gas-prices-has-some-people-crying-socialism/

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Post  News Buzzard on Sat Jul 26, 2014 6:05 pm

And you don't see the hypocrisy here. You constantly blame Obama for the fuel prices, and here you criticize a town that tackled the problem by opening their own service station to lower the prices. If you don't like that socialist approach, then don't blame Obama for the high gas prices. I don't think any town should be in the service station business either, but capitalism in the form of gas prices has nothing to do with Obama. If you want to blame anyone, take a look at Wall St and the speculating they do on the oil prices. (not to mention the oil companies)

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