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Post  News Hawk on Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:16 pm

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Re: Where the Marine Patrol Won't See You Doing Dumb Things

Post  obervantone on Thu Jul 31, 2014 10:27 pm

Before I comment, let's first establish what you think is wrong in this picture?

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Post  News Hawk on Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:06 am

The NHMP wasn't present?

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Re: Where the Marine Patrol Won't See You Doing Dumb Things

Post  red_hill on Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:15 am

News Hawk wrote:

Looks like some people having fun! You know...

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"the children were having fun in the play area"

Impossible to tell given the angle and resolution of your pic, but it looks like the PWC passenger is taking video/ pics?

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Post  News Hawk on Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:30 am

red_hill wrote:Looks like some people having fun! You know...

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"the children were having fun in the play area"

Impossible to tell given the angle and resolution of your pic, but it looks like the PWC passenger is taking video/ pics?
I'm sure you're correct. Don't you see anything else?

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Re: Where the Marine Patrol Won't See You Doing Dumb Things

Post  red_hill on Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:31 am

News Hawk wrote:
red_hill wrote:Looks like some people having fun! You know...

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"the children were having fun in the play area"

Impossible to tell given the angle and resolution of your pic, but it looks like the PWC passenger is taking video/ pics?
I'm sure you're correct. Don't you see anything else?

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Yes, you need a better camera and angle
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Post  Guest2 on Fri Aug 01, 2014 9:56 am

Marine patrol boat on port side of boat towing waterskier.

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Post  obervantone on Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:10 am

Appears to be a ski boat towing a skier or wake boarder, passing a patrol boat port to port and has either just overtaken or is about to be overtaken by a PWC on the ski boats starboard side in the foreground.  All looks legal and like they are having fun to me.

It is also possible that Red_Hill is correct and the PWC is taking video, hard to tell in this photo.

So again I ask, what do YOU think is wrong here News Hawk?

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Re: Where the Marine Patrol Won't See You Doing Dumb Things

Post  News Hawk on Fri Aug 01, 2014 6:52 pm

red_hill wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
red_hill wrote:Looks like some people having fun! You know...

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"the children were having fun in the play area"

Impossible to tell given the angle and resolution of your pic, but it looks like the PWC passenger is taking video/ pics?
I'm sure you're correct. Don't you see anything else?

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Yes, you need a better camera and angle.

The angle is fine, but the towing boat (pictured) pushed a wake that soaked my camera. I no longer had any telephoto capability. The photo is an enlargement from its normal (wide-angle) setting. There is no NHMP boat in the photo.

Have you ever "closed in" as this Jet-Ski has, to take video or stills?

Does "fun" exclude responsibility to observe New Hampshire's RSAs...or is it "fun" to not observe New Hampshire's RSAs?

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Post  obervantone on Fri Aug 01, 2014 8:53 pm

I did take some measurements earlier today because I had a feeling that you were going to claim something along those lines.  Assuming that the skiboat is 20 feet and the skier is about 6 feet tall....that would make the PWC about 10 feet tall if you are claiming that it is close to the skier or tow boat.

There does appear to be the top of a Marine Patrol Boat cabin in the background on the other side of the tow boat.  Since you are limiting our judgement to the assessment of a single still photograph then you tell us.  If that object is not the top of the cabin of a Marine Patrol RIB what is it?

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Post  News Hawk on Fri Aug 01, 2014 10:10 pm

I don't know why this site's photo-hosting cuts off the towing boat's bow. But here's another view:

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Post  obervantone on Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:46 am

The first one was clearer. So it looks like what we thought might be the top of the cabin of the MP RIB is the Wake Board/ski tower on the boat?

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Post  WHL on Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:33 am

Sometimes when you look from a distance, boats are not as close to each other as they look. Having said that a lot have no clue about the 150' rule.
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Post  News Hawk on Sat Aug 02, 2014 8:07 am

obervantone wrote:The first one was clearer.  So it looks like what we thought might be the top of the cabin of the MP RIB is the Wake Board/ski tower on the boat?
You can do what you want. Except for passing through the westernmost part—almost two miles away—there's been no NHMP boat sighted here for days—hence, this thread.

Maybe they're setting Winter Harbor up for the unmarked MP boat(s).

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Post  obervantone on Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:39 am

I think F&G has unmarked boats but outside of when the MP did the speed study I don't recall ever hearing of them using unmarked boats.

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Post  WHL on Sat Aug 02, 2014 12:10 pm

Two or three years ago they had jet skiis that were unmarked.

Didn't someone at the FATP mention that they might now have unmarked boats, NH?
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Re: Where the Marine Patrol Won't See You Doing Dumb Things

Post  red_hill on Sat Aug 02, 2014 1:18 pm

News Hawk wrote:
obervantone wrote:The first one was clearer.  So it looks like what we thought might be the top of the cabin of the MP RIB is the Wake Board/ski tower on the boat?
You can do what you want. Except for passing through the westernmost part—almost two miles away—there's been no NHMP boat sighted here for days—hence, this thread.

Maybe they're setting Winter Harbor up for the unmarked MP boat(s).

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I was in WH yesterday. I saw a MP RIB in WH around 1330. He was in WH when I got there (I idled all the way up from Libby to the Basin), and was just headed out of WH as I made my way back out. At a minimum, the MP RIB was in WH for 30 minutes yesterday (like I said he was there when I got there)

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Post  WHL on Sat Aug 02, 2014 3:10 pm

red_hill wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
obervantone wrote:The first one was clearer.  So it looks like what we thought might be the top of the cabin of the MP RIB is the Wake Board/ski tower on the boat?
You can do what you want. Except for passing through the westernmost part—almost two miles away—there's been no NHMP boat sighted here for days—hence, this thread.

Maybe they're setting Winter Harbor up for the unmarked MP boat(s).

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I was in WH yesterday. I saw a MP RIB in WH around 1330. He was in WH when I got there (I idled all the way up from Libby to the Basin), and was just headed out of WH as I made my way back out. At a minimum, the MP RIB was in WH for 30 minutes yesterday (like I said he was there when I got there)



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Post  red_hill on Sat Aug 02, 2014 4:59 pm

WHL wrote:
red_hill wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
obervantone wrote:The first one was clearer.  So it looks like what we thought might be the top of the cabin of the MP RIB is the Wake Board/ski tower on the boat?
You can do what you want. Except for passing through the westernmost part—almost two miles away—there's been no NHMP boat sighted here for days—hence, this thread.

Maybe they're setting Winter Harbor up for the unmarked MP boat(s).

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I was in WH yesterday. I saw a MP RIB in WH around 1330. He was in WH when I got there (I idled all the way up from Libby to the Basin), and was just headed out of WH as I made my way back out. At a minimum, the MP RIB was in WH for 30 minutes yesterday (like I said he was there when I got there)



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Post  WHL on Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:14 pm

Oh darn. I didn't get a message on Winni. I just checked to see if I missed it, but there was no notification that I got one. We were home. Next time come into the dock!! Sorry I missed you!
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Post  red_hill on Sat Aug 02, 2014 5:19 pm

WHL wrote:Oh darn.  I didn't get a message on Winni.  I just checked to see if I missed it, but there was no notification that I got one.  We were home.  Next time come into the dock!! Sorry I missed you!

Is there water on that left finger pier? I could not tell

And, umm that is because I never hit send (I did not have a subject so it prompted me... need those readers!)

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Post  WHL on Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:12 pm

Yes, any sides of the docks are fine, with plenty of water. Take your choice.
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Post  News Hawk on Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:07 pm

WHL wrote:Two or three years ago they had jet skiis that were unmarked.  

Didn't someone at the FATP mention that they might now have unmarked boats, NH?

That's what I read at FATP earlier this season.

There are two similar—but privately-owned boats frequenting Winter Harbor that can be mistaken for NHMP.

One real NHMP, with a large white radome sits in the channel near Libby on occasion. They're not looking in the largest locale because their "signature" boat profile can be identified for miles away. They seldom appear on weekends, but when they do, it's late in the afternoon, and after all the "fun" is over.

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Post  WHL on Sun Aug 03, 2014 7:28 am

You are right, they do come when all the traffic is gone.
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