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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:37 am

Concluded that there was no administration wrongdoing:

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/House-panel-No-administration-wrongdoing-in-5663509.php?cmpid=twitter

No stand down order.

Talking points were flawed but not intentionally devious.

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Post  Outerlimits on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:20 am

So they conclude that Obama Administration is incompetent, not criminal.

I feel so much better now.


The investigation ended just short of the political cover-up. Of course that's how the lawyers do it. No blame found in a very limited aspect of the issue and stretch it beyond, to pretend the investigation cleared the lies told to the familes of the deceased and to mislead the American people.

The larger and more insidious problem is the institutionalized lying by Obama, HRC and SR about a video in order to provide political protection to

No "deliberate wrong-doing" is not the same as "no wrong-doing" or "did not act irresponsibly" or "was not incompetent" or "did not display malfeasance".

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Post  News Pigeon on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:27 am

Hmmm...it really hurts when the "facts" are presented! Now Issa will have to move on to another BS investigation.....*yawn*...whatever will the loonie right kvetch about this month??
Oh, that's right...the black guy is going to give us all ebola per: Faux News reports!

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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:36 am

News Pigeon wrote:Hmmm...it really hurts when the "facts" are presented! Now Issa will have to move on to another BS investigation.....*yawn*...whatever will the loonie right kvetch about this month??

Yeah right! Now it's on to the next circus; The Select Committee!

The House panel, comprised of a majority of Republicans, did not conclude that the Obama Administration was incompetent. That's just an extremist partisan opinion provided to us by Outerlimits! Outerlimits would be a great title for this forum!

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Post  News Pigeon on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:38 am

Laughing Yeah, it's really difficult to have a serious discussion here given all the innuendo & fake outrage that suffices as debate from most righties on this forum....and when you pin them down with proven fact, they just ignore it and go right back to their talking points Shocked 


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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:41 am

News Pigeon wrote:Laughing Yeah, it's really difficult to have a serious discussion here given all the innuendo & fake outrage that suffices as debate from most righties on this forum....

Yup! I'm glad you stop around every now and then because your posts are very informative!

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Post  News Pigeon on Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:43 am

Thanx NB...it's a good reality check if nothing else!

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Post  Outerlimits on Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:07 am

No "deliberate wrong-doing" is not the same as "no wrong-doing" or "did not act irresponsibly" or "was not incompetent" or "did not display malfeasance".

The rumors of the stand down orders circulated because people did not see any plan implemented to react to the attack on our Libya consulate.

Most people just cannot wrap their heads around the idea that our terrorist attack response plan started and ended with a couple of former US Navy SEALS, with a couple of small arms weapons, a laser pointer and a diplomatic services car.

The fiasco on 9/11 in Libya was not purposeful; it was the result of numerous levels of incompetence and ineptitude by the Obama Administration and the State Department.



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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:25 pm

Outerlimits wrote:The fiasco on 9/11 in Libya was not purposeful; it was the result of numerous levels of incompetence and ineptitude by the Obama Administration and the State Department.

I consider that to be an extremist opinion which I don't share. In the end you still have nothing, despite the millions of dollars your party has spent, and will spend, on these bogus hearings. It's refreshing to see some Republicans participate in an objective review, unlike the hateful and false bashing I see around here. It has become very evident to me that racism still rears it's ugly head throughout this country, despite the fact that we are 60 years removed from Civil Rights legislation!!  No

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Post  Outerlimits on Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:54 pm

News Buzzard wrote:...In the end you still have nothing, despite the millions of dollars your party has spent, and will spend, on these bogus hearings. It's refreshing to see some Republicans participate in an objective review, unlike the hateful and false bashing I see around here. It has become very evident to me that racism still rears it's ugly head throughout this country, despite the fact that we are 60 years removed from Civil Rights legislation!!  No
 
You are actually squawking about millions wasted on an investigation where four American’s lost their lives including an ambassador?  
 
As opposed to the cost of our interference in Libya and Syria.
As opposed to the current border crisis.
As opposed to what it costs the tax payer for Obama to fly around doing fund raisers.
As opposed to what it cost tax payers in law suits against cities and states trying to do something about illegal immigration because the Fed won't.
 
How much did that poorly executed web site for Obama care cost?
 
I don't think that Obama holds the high ground when it comes to Government waste. I am against all government waste. I don't care who does it. But to paint Obama as a victim? The man lies like a rug. Who can honestly take him at his word?
 
You only call it false bashing because you can’t defend the actions of this administration…, when you don’t have the facts on your side, you link a leftist blog and/or play the race card..
 
 
News Buzzard wrote:I consider that to be an extremist opinion which I don't share.
 
What you call “extremist”…well that has a lot to do with you own perspective.  
 
 
69% of Americans believe the country is going in the wrong direction. - But you believe things are actually getter better.  
 
59% of Americans believe Obamacare will make the health care system worse. But you believe Obamacare is improving healthcare.
 
60% of Americans disapprove Obama’s overall job performance. But you think he is doing a good job.
 
53% disapprove of Obama's handling of foreign policy  And you think he is doing a good job.
 
54% think Obama is unable to lead the country and get the job done. But you believe he can.
 
59% of Americans believe Obama has failed on our southern border.  You blame Bush and the Republicans.
 
Almost 100 million Americans are unemployed or under employed. Nearly 36% of Americans are on means test welfare while 49% of all Americans are receiving government benefits.  All are record highs.  You are telling us this is OK.
 
Just 14% of Americans believe their children will be better off than they are.  This should put a chill down everyone’s spine.
 
Maybe it’s not us…maybe…just maybe…it’s you that has the extremist opinion.
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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:10 pm

The facts are that the economy is getting better and Obamacare is working. We're almost done with the 2 disastrous wars that Bush started, and I can't help it that FOX News is constantly pounding Obama with their dishonest and extremist reporting. The most important poll for Obama was the election in 2012, when he smoked Mitt Romney. That's back when our unemployment rate was close to 8% and the economy was struggling.

There is no doubt in my mind that racism is driving the anti-Obama rhetoric, but despite all the hatred the country is coming back from a disastrous recession. (brought to us by Bush)

You know you don't stand a chance against Hillary, and it's really pathetic that you're trying to make an issue out of her health. You can't beat her on the issues so you attack her personally. That's really disgusting!!!   No

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Post  News Pigeon on Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:48 pm

Outerlimits wrote:
You are actually squawking about millions wasted on an investigation where four American’s lost their lives including an ambassador?

Why does this sound just too damn disengenous coming from you?? You never seem concerned about other lives, why these guys?
 

 
You only call it false bashing because you can’t defend the actions of this administration…,
There's no need to "defend" Obama, he has done more for the general population and the good of our country, while toting the "dead weight' of the  Congressional Stooges, then you could even imagine...
 

 
 
69% of Americans believe the country is going in the wrong direction. - But you believe things are actually getter better.  
 
59% of Americans believe Obamacare will make the health care system worse. But you believe Obamacare is improving healthcare.
 
60% of Americans disapprove Obama’s overall job performance. But you think he is doing a good job.
 
53% disapprove of Obama's handling of foreign policy  And you think he is doing a good job.
 
54% think Obama is unable to lead the country and get the job done. But you believe he can.
 
59% of Americans believe Obama has failed on our southern border.  You blame Bush and the Republicans.
 
Almost 100 million Americans are unemployed or under employed. Nearly 36% of Americans are on means test welfare while 49% of all Americans are receiving government benefits.  All are record highs.  You are telling us this is OK.
 
Just 14% of Americans believe their children will be better off than they are.  This should put a chill down everyone’s spine.
 
Maybe it’s not us…maybe…just maybe…it’s you that has the extremist opinion.

Maybe, just maybe, you and the other pessimists really should  consider that polls can be swayed to say whatever the pollsters want....after all didn't Sarah warn you about the "lame stream media"? Very Happy

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Post  Outerlimits on Thu Aug 07, 2014 4:56 pm

News Buzzard wrote:The facts are that the economy is getting better and Obamacare is working. We're almost done with the 2 disastrous wars that Bush started, and I can't help it that FOX News is constantly pounding Obama with their dishonest and extremist reporting. The most important poll for Obama was the election in 2012, when he smoked Mitt Romney. That's back when our unemployment rate was close to 8% and the economy was struggling.

There is no doubt in my mind that racism is driving the anti-Obama rhetoric, but despite all the hatred the country is coming back from a disastrous recession. (brought to us by Bush)

You know you don't stand a chance against Hillary, and it's really pathetic that you're trying to make an issue out of her health. You can't beat her on the issues so you attack her personally. That's really disgusting!!!   No
 
If Fox News has the power to trick the majority of Americans into believing Obama can’t lead this country.
 
If Fox News has the power to trick the majority of Americans into believing the economy is weak.
 
If Fox News has the power to trick the majority of Americans into believing job market is awful.
 
If Fox News has the power to trick the majority of Americans into believing Obama’s foreign policy is a disaster.
 
If Fox News has the power to trick people into believing Obamacare is bad for the country.
 
If Fox News has the power to trick people into believing the country will be worse for our children than it was for us.
 
If Fox has all that power…  
 
Enough power to make people believe all those untruths (according to you)…
 
Then what chance would Hillary have of winning an election.
 
You call it racist…I am starting to believe you might have some serious white-guilt.
 
News Pigeon wrote:Maybe, just maybe, you and the other pessimists really should  consider that polls can be swayed to say whatever the pollsters want..

Yeah those pollsters over at NBC/WSJ always lean way to the right.   Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
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Post  News Pigeon on Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:01 pm

Outerlimits wrote:
 

Yeah those pollsters over at NBC/WSJ always lean way to the right.   Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

Yep, sure do...
The Wall Street Journal is an American English-language international daily newspaper with a special emphasis on business and economic news. It is published six days a week in New York City by Dow Jones & Company, a division of News Corp...On May 2, 2007, News Corporation made an unsolicited takeover bid for Dow Jones, offering US$60 a share for stock that had been selling for US$33 a share. The Bancroft family, which controlled more than 60% of the voting stock, at first rejected the offer, but later reconsidered its position.[24]

Three months later, on August 1, 2007, News Corporation and Dow Jones entered into a definitive merger agreement.[25] The US$5 billion sale added The Wall Street Journal to Rupert Murdoch's news empire, which already included Fox News Channel, financial network unit and London's The Times, and locally within New York, the New York Post, along with Fox flagship station WNYW (Channel 5) and MyNetworkTV flagship WWOR (Channel 9)
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Post  News Hawk on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:30 pm

Outerlimits wrote:No "deliberate wrong-doing" is not the same as "no wrong-doing" or "did not act irresponsibly" or "was not incompetent" or "did not display malfeasance"..."Osama Bin Laden is dead and Al-Qaeda is on the run"
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"it was because of a YouTube video"
You're quoting the panel's 2nd-ranked Democrat. The report hasn't been released, and the next inquiry isn't until September.

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Post  News Hawk on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:38 pm

News Buzzard wrote:"...You know you don't stand a chance against Hillary..."
When Hillary promised, "We will take from you to provide for the common good", the thinking was, who could be worse—Hillary or Obama?

The Dims knew what they were doing when they pulled the rug out from under Hillary—so it seems the US would have been better off under Hillary—who spouted her words directly from the USSR.

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Post  News Hawk on Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:50 pm

Oh, Boy, were they wrong!




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Post  Outerlimits on Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:44 am

News Buzzard wrote:Concluded that there was no administration wrongdoing:

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/House-panel-No-administration-wrongdoing-in-5663509.php?cmpid=twitter

No stand down order.

Talking points were flawed but not intentionally devious.


News Pigeon wrote:Hmmm...it really hurts when the "facts" are presented! Now Issa will have to move on to another BS investigation.....*yawn*...whatever will the loonie right kvetch about this month??
Oh, that's right...the black guy is going to give us all ebola per: Faux News reports!

Well, when one tells lies and tries to conceal the truth, it eventually finds its way to the surface.

Hillary Clinton confidants were part of an operation to “separate” damaging documents before they were turned over to the Accountability Review Board investigating security lapses surrounding the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya.

As the House Select Committee on Benghazi prepares for its first hearing this week, a former State Department diplomat is coming forward with a startling allegation: Hillary Clinton confidants were part of an operation to “separate” damaging documents before they were turned over to the Accountability Review Board investigating security lapses surrounding the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attacks on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya.

According to former Deputy Assistant Secretary Raymond Maxwell, the after-hours session took place over a weekend in a basement operations-type center at State Department headquarters in Washington, D.C.

Top Secretary of State Officials scrubbing incriminating documents to keep them from investigators?  How can this not be relevant?  

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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Sep 17, 2014 2:52 pm

That's what the diplomat is claiming he saw. Rolling Eyes We'll find out just how much he saw when the questioning takes place.

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Post  Outerlimits on Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:10 pm

It’s a good thing the Republicans did not let this go.

I presume you would be against the destruction of evidence even when it is people that you support.
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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:14 pm


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Post  Outerlimits on Wed Sep 17, 2014 3:45 pm

News Buzzard wrote:No, I'm saying there was no destruction of evidence!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/17/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi-house-committee/index.html


Of course you are, because you were there right?

Just like there was no stand down order right?

The guys that were there, in Benghazi say there was an order to STAND DOWN. But you know there wasn’t because the report written by those who were not there and those who would save their own butts said there wasn’t.

There is no amount of evidence that would persuade you to stop parroting the same pathetic story.

The connection between Hillary’s claims and reality are non-existent. Remember her stories of running under sniper fire when she landed in Bosnia, compared to the reality of pictures of little girls giving her flowers on the tarmac? She is a liar and will say anything to make herself look good. Of course Hillary and her supporters simply claim she is the victim of the big bad Republicans.
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Post  WHL on Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:17 pm

NB still believes it was caused by the video too, Outer.
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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:45 pm

Outerlimits wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:No, I'm saying there was no destruction of evidence!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/17/politics/hillary-clinton-benghazi-house-committee/index.html


Of course you are, because you were there right?  

Just like there was no stand down order right?  

The guys that were there, in Benghazi say there was an order to STAND DOWN.  But you know there wasn’t because the report written by those who were not there and those who would save their own butts said there wasn’t.

There is no amount of evidence that would persuade you to stop parroting the same pathetic story.

The connection between Hillary’s claims and reality are non-existent.  Remember her stories of running under sniper fire when she landed in Bosnia, compared to the reality of pictures of little girls giving her flowers on the tarmac?  She is a liar and will say anything to make herself look good.   Of course Hillary and her supporters simply claim she is the victim of the big bad Republicans.

After seven congressional investigations, (soon to be eight) all of your hogwash has been repeatedly debunked!!!

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Post  News Hawk on Wed Sep 17, 2014 6:57 pm

I'm sure that a hard drive can be found to find the missing evidence—just like Lois Lerner's computer.

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