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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:53 pm

This should drive the Republicans crazy!! Wink

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-plan-shield-5-million-immigrants-deportation-ny-174708862.html

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Post  red_hill on Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:21 pm

News Buzzard wrote:This should drive the Republicans crazy!! Wink

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-plan-shield-5-million-immigrants-deportation-ny-174708862.html

This should get interesting. He is making a mistake, but he knows that. He blew the entire first 2 years of his first term.

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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:43 pm

We disagree on that, Red. First of all, Obama only had 60 votes in the Senate for some 6 months in between the time Franken got sworn in (late) and the time Kennedy died. I consider the stimulus, the rescue of the automakers and Obamacare to be smashing success stories. With a lot of help from the Fed we now have an unemployment rate of 5.8% and 10 million more Americans with health insurance. Despite the negative and extremely partisan opinion of the Republicans, history will give Obama high rankings for his successes.

As far as immigration goes, Obama is only doing what the Congress should have done decades ago. The Senate passed a good bipartisan bill that Boehner sat on.

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Post  News Pigeon on Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:52 pm

News Buzzard wrote:

As far as immigration goes, Obama is only doing what the Congress should have done decades ago. The Senate passed a good bipartisan bill that Boehner sat on.


They remind me of spoiled children (or in McConnells case, a decaying turtle)...."No... we want to make the rules, no no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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Post  WHL on Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:01 pm

News Buzzard wrote:This should drive the Republicans crazy!! Wink

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-plan-shield-5-million-immigrants-deportation-ny-174708862.html

You got THAT right!! It drives us crazy to see how stupid he continues to be.
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Post  News Hawk on Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:39 pm

How is Obama going to increase employment numbers without "legalizing" foreigners?

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Re: Executive Order On Immigration Imminent

Post  News Pigeon on Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:39 pm

WHL wrote:
You got THAT right!!  It drives us crazy to see how stupid he continues to be.

Seriously, he's stupid because he wants to deal with a big problem in this country..... and your party says NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO because, OMG those people tend to vote Democrat .
It's the ultimate voter suppression tactic....tax em' but hell no we won't let them vote!!!

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Post  WHL on Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:24 pm

ANd why do they vote Democrat????? Because they want free housing, free food, free cars, free cellphones, free heat, free health insurance, free SS and Medicare. Get the picture?
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Post  News Pigeon on Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:50 pm

Here, educate yourself instead of making foolish blanket statements that you only heard somewhere!! Get a clue....

http://www.cato.org/publications/economic-development-bulletin/poor-immigrants-use-public-benefits-lower-rate-poor

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Re: Executive Order On Immigration Imminent

Post  obervantone on Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:30 pm

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How is Obama going to increase employment numbers without "legalizing" foreigners?


You mean like these private sector jobs?

http://ourfuture.org/20140818/bush-vs-obama-on-the-economy-in-3-simple-charts

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Post  News Hawk on Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:55 am

obervantone wrote:
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How is Obama going to increase employment numbers without "legalizing" foreigners?

You mean like these private sector jobs?

http://ourfuture.org/20140818/bush-vs-obama-on-the-economy-in-3-simple-charts

I've never heard of "Campaign for America's Future"—are they using Government figures? Are they using figures that include part-timers, workers with two or more jobs? (and Illegals)?

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News Item...

Post  News Hawk on Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:21 am



Immigrants and their U.S.-born children make up more than 40 percent of new Medicaid recipients at a cost of $4.6 billion, according to an analysis of government data.


The Center for Immigration Studies, a low-immigration advocacy group, released a report early Thursday that found both legal and illegal immigrants and their minor children made up 42 percent of Medicaid growth from 2011 to last year.

Part of the increased enrollment came as a result of the new healthcare law’s expansion of Medicaid to impoverished and low-income adults.

According to CIS officials, most of the immigrants tallied in the report entered the United States legally. The report also found that two-thirds of the Medicaid recipients were the adult immigrants and not the children of immigrants born in the United States.

The report makes the case that immigrants and their children are benefiting more from Medicaid expansion than non-immigrants. The report found that 25 percent of immigrants and their children were enrolled in Medicaid, compared to 16 percent of non-immigrants and their children.
—Washington Examiner

Not counting the latest "Dream" immigrants?

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Re: Executive Order On Immigration Imminent

Post  obervantone on Fri Nov 14, 2014 4:21 pm

News Hawk
I've never heard of "Campaign for America's Future"—are they using Government figures?
I should have remembered that reading comprehension was not your strong suit, sorry.
If you had looked at the credits on the graphs you would have noted the accreditation of Bureau of Labor Statistics and St. Louis Fed.

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Obama Has Precedence To Act Alone On Immigration

Post  News Buzzard on Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:56 pm

Reagan and Bush (41) also did it:

http://news.yahoo.com/reagan-bush-acted-alone-shield-immigrants-171420251.html

But Obama will poison the well if he does it. Rolling Eyes

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Post  News Hawk on Sat Nov 15, 2014 3:17 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Reagan and Bush (41) also did it:

http://news.yahoo.com/reagan-bush-acted-alone-shield-immigrants-171420251.html

But Obama will poison the well if he does it. Rolling Eyes

Illegal Immigrants?

Invited-in?

Sure...why not? America's "not even close to being broke", and the Illegals will prosper more than our own "working poor".

Happy Days are here again...

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Post  obervantone on Sat Nov 15, 2014 5:42 pm

Are you telling me Republicans allowed illegal immigrants to stay in the US and Congress voted on an immigration law?

Who do you think you are trying to kid, right News Hawk?

Nearly three decades ago, there was barely a peep when Reagan and Bush used their authority to extend amnesty to the spouses and minor children of immigrants covered by the 1986 law.

In 1986, Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify,

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Post  News Pigeon on Sat Nov 15, 2014 7:48 pm

obervantone wrote:Are you telling me Republicans allowed illegal immigrants to stay in the US ?
In 1986, Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982.

Yeah but...Reagan and Bush aren't black Kenyans..... Cool

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The mid-terms have spoken...

Post  News Hawk on Sun Nov 16, 2014 7:08 am

[quote="obervantone"]
Nearly three decades ago, there was barely a peep when Reagan and Bush used their authority to extend amnesty to the spouses and minor children of immigrants covered by the 1986 law.

In 1986, Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify,

In 1986, three million Illegals was just 1% of the US population; today, it could be 10% or higher. Families left behind would be included, and could even swell the population to unimaginable numbers. American children are dying from diseases thought long-eradicated. TB is surging with the latest "arrivals", proving fatal to 60% of those who catch it.

Deported "Immigrant" felons are returning to continue their depredations on a naïve American populace. OTMs have rapidly been replacing the usual Mexican/Latin Americans. "Hundreds" of OTM illegal aliens from special interest countries from countries including Iran, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Pakistan, Cuba, Brazil, Ecuador, China, Russia, Yemen, Albania, Yugoslavia and Afghanistan have been apprehended in the South Texas region alone since September 11, 2001.

We can't keep up with the present deluge, so why invite even more lawbreakers with a stroke of a pen?

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"Muzaffar Chishti" is warning enough...

Post  News Hawk on Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:42 am



The fate of a little-noticed ballot measure in strongly Democratic Oregon serves as a warning to President Barack Obama and his party about the political perils of immigration policy.

Even as Oregon voters were legalizing recreational marijuana and expanding Democratic majorities in state government, they decided by a margin of 66-34 to cancel a new state law that would have provided driver's licenses to people who are in the United States illegally.

"The Oregon measure tells you these measures are not easy or simple," said Muzaffar Chishti of the Migration Policy Institute. "The political cost may be significant, even in blue states."
—ABC News
Even more bad news for Barry Hussein Soetero...

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Post  News Buzzard on Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:52 am

It never mattered to you whether you were comparing apples to oranges or not. I don't think Obama ever mentioned giving federal drivers licenses to the people he wants to shield from deportation. This is just more BS from the Right Wing Book Of Mythology! The bottom line is the Republicans can do nothing about any executive order on immigration that Obama issues, and by the way, Obama is every bit as American as you are!!

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Post  News Buzzard on Sun Nov 16, 2014 12:00 pm

There are 10 states which are doing what Oregon just turned down:

http://news.yahoo.com/no-us-immigration-reform-states-stepping-050121209.html

Police around the country have not been calling Immigration officials on misdemeanor arrests of illegals for 40 years. It seemed OK back then to have plenty of cheap labor around! Rolling Eyes

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Post  obervantone on Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:17 pm

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In 1986, three million Illegals was just 1% of the US population; today, it could be 10% or higher.
Gee, another unattributed quote.  I wonder if this is from the same source claiming more than 6% of the votes cast in the midterm election were fraudulent! more that 29,000 in New Hampshire alone. Still waiting for the indictments/arrests since you source is obviously impeachable.

In your initial claim that more than 6% of the vote was fraudulent you stated that even with those fraudulent votes the republicans were able to overcome them...I would suggest that if your unattributed source is correct then the republicans did not overcome them, they benefited from them!

Has nothing to do with the fact the The President of the United States is black now does it? Can you say birthers?

When Republicans give legal status to illegals, no problem...when a black Democrat President considers it republicans raise Holy Hell.

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Post  WHL on Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:57 pm

THe new Texas Governor says he and his people will fight Obama.
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Post  News Hawk on Sun Nov 16, 2014 2:47 pm

obervantone wrote:
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In 1986, three million Illegals was just 1% of the US population; today, it could be 10% or higher.
Gee, another unattributed quote.
It's not an unattributed quote—and only a quote because you made it one.

No

obervantone wrote:I wonder if this is from the same source claiming more than 6% of the votes cast in the midterm election were fraudulent! more that 29,000 in New Hampshire alone. Still waiting for the indictments/arrests since you source is obviously impeachable.

Get it right, without making it a "strawman" quote, and I'll answer it; otherwise, I will continue to ignore it.

obervantone wrote:Has nothing to do with the fact the The President of the United States is black now does it?

If you've been following our conversations, you'd see how often I quote Presidential candidates who know how to keep from destroying this once-great country—yet their skin color is how you'd grade them?

obervantone wrote:Can you say birthers?

Are you asking me if Barry was once named Barry Soetero?

obervantone wrote:When Republicans give legal status to illegals, no problem...when a black Democrat President considers it Republicans raise Holy Hell.
Republicans were once content to "waive" our immigration laws. The wholesale scrapping of "A nation of Laws" is turning us into  a third-world country—walking softly, yet unable to use a big stick.

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Re: Executive Order On Immigration Imminent

Post  obervantone on Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:21 pm

News Hawk
obervantone wrote:
News Hawk
In 1986, three million Illegals was just 1% of the US population; today, it could be 10% or higher.
Gee, another unattributed quote
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It's not an unattributed quote—and only a quote because you made it one
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No, it became a quote when you posted it as fact, and it became another unattributed quote when you failed to attach a source for your "information".
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obervantone wrote:
I wonder if this is from the same source claiming more than 6% of the votes cast in the midterm election were fraudulent! more that 29,000 in New Hampshire alone. Still waiting for the indictments/arrests since you source is obviously impeachable
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Get it right, without making it a "strawman" quote, and I'll answer it; otherwise, I will continue to ignore it
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You are the one that made the outrageous statement that more than 6% of the midterm vote was fraudulent, not me.  All I did was extrapolate the New Hampshire numbers based on the New Hampshire gubernatorial and US Senate races.  If you are so certain of YOUR statement why haven't you contacted the FBI with your proof?

Do you remember posted the following in the Voter Fraud thread without attribution?  That makes this statement YOURS!
News Hawk
It's been estimated that Republicans have to overcome 6+ percent of fraudulent votes to defeat the Democrats
Perhaps you are now trying to distance yourself from a statement as outrageous as the this?  Or maybe you think it "doesn't count" because it was taken from a threat with a different topic title?

Whatever your reason for back peddling you just make it clearer and clearer that you are just blowing smoke...AGAIN.
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