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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:14 pm

Yay, democracy!

I fail to see any moral difference between voting to exterminate the family pet or voting to steal the fruits of your labor.

Family set to lose pit bull on Dec. 1 because of ban

http://www.kalb.com/story/27453471/family-set-to-lose-pit-bull-on-dec-1-because-of-ban

MOREAUVILLE, La. (KALB News Channel 5) -- A family in Moreauville is pleading with their village to overturn an ordinance that would force them to get rid of their beloved family pet.

On October 13, the village passed an ordinance that states if you own a pit bull or a Rottweiler, you must get rid of it by December 1 or they will take it for "disposition."

O'Hara Owens is trying to spend as much time as she can with her beloved pit bull, Zeus, before the village she lives in promises to take him away from her and dispose of him on December 1.

"If anything ever happened to him, I would just shut down," she said.

O'Hara suffers from severe neck problems and has been forced to wear a halo brace and use a wheelchair.

She says Zeus acts as a sort of "therapy dog," providing love and support for her and her other brothers and sisters.

"I can sit here if I'm in pain, he comes and he notices it before I even make any noise," she said.

But, Zeus has been blacklisted as a "vicious" breed in Moreauville.

On October 13, the village voted to ban pit bulls and Rottweilers.

A letter was sent out to owners saying that if they didn't get rid of them by December 1, then they would be taken for "further disposition."

"The breed is not vicious," she said. "It's the owner. It is the way that you raise them."

O'Hara's parents tried to fight the passing of the ordinance at the meeting, but were outnumbered.

They say no one has ever complained about their dog and it has never bitten anyone.

"I asked the question, well what if I don't give you my dog?" said Joanna Armand, O'Hara's mother. "(Chief of Police) Scott Lemoine said they would come and get the dog and the dog would be disposed of and we would be fined."

News Channel 5 reached out to village to hear its side of the story.

Alderman Penn Lemoine said the ordinance was created to appease several residents.

"We had several residents that were complaining about not being able to walk along the neighborhoods because these dogs were basically running along town," Lemoine said in a phone interview.

We asked Lemoine about dog attacks...

"There have been, but I don't think they're documented," he said.

And, if they plan to kill the dogs they collect on December 1...

"I'd rather not elaborate on that," he said.

"Is that what it is? Are you going to kill the dogs?" asked reporter, Brooke Buford.

"If that's what the ordinance says, then that's what it says," Lemoine responded.

Lemoine told us he owns a German Shepard. But, he only considers pit bulls and Rottweilers as "vicious."

He also says what the town is doing is completely legal.

O'Hara Owens and her family say they plan to continue to fight for Zeus.

"Like I told them, they're going to have to take him from my cold, dead hands before they get a hold of him," Owens said.

Alderman Lemoine says if there's a strong enough public outcry about the severity of the ordinance he says he would consider possibly changing it.

The next council meeting is December 8.

If you would like to sign a petition to overturn the ordinance, you can through the family's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/savingzeusybaby?pnref=story
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Post  obervantone on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:25 pm

Dogs are not inherently good or bad.  They respond to their environment.  If they are trained and treated well they will be fine, if they are beaten and neglected they are more likely to be aggressive since that is what they were taught.

Banning particular breeds of dogs is ludicrous.

That said, it is my understanding that in order to get a town ordinance approved there needs to be a public hearing first. So I can only draw the conclusion that the owners of the dogs that would be banned as a result of this ordinance did not either show up at the public hearings or make their positions known before hand.

You talk about democracy, this is a perfect example of the masses leaving it to someone else to decide. There are consequences to elections in all level of government.

My message to those who don't vote....get involved or stop your bitching!

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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:31 pm

obervantone wrote:Dogs are not inherently good or bad.  They respond to their environment.  If they are trained and treated well they will be fine, if they are beaten and neglected they are more likely to be aggressive since that is what they were taught.

Banning particular breeds of dogs is ludicrous.

That said, it is my understanding that in order to get a town ordinance approved there needs to be a public hearing first.  So I can only draw the conclusion that the owners of the dogs that would be banned as a result of this ordinance did not either show up at the public hearings or make their positions known before hand.  

You talk about democracy, this is a perfect example of the masses leaving it to someone else to decide.  There are consequences to elections in all level of government.  

My message to those who don't vote....get involved or stop your bitching!

O'Hara's parents tried to fight the passing of the ordinance at the meeting, but were outnumbered.

Vote Harder!

It's not just a ban, they will, using the hired guns of government, go house to house, using dog registration data, and exterminate the prohibited dogs.
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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Nov 24, 2014 12:38 pm

I don't talk of "democracy", I hate everything about it, it is wicked, bloody, tyrannical, deadly.

Hitler was elected "democratically".

It is four wolves and a sheep voting on what is going to be served for dinner.

Democracy... while it lasts is more bloody than either aristocracy or monarchy. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide. - John Adams
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Post  obervantone on Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:03 pm

O'Hara's parents tried to fight the passing of the ordinance at the meeting, but were outnumbered.
Which says the owners of the other dogs of the same breed did not bother to turn out or express their opinions. I would hope that in the next municipal election the folks impacted would be more involved in the process.
I don't talk of "democracy", I hate everything about it, it is wicked, bloody, tyrannical, deadly.
What would you replace it with?

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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:06 pm

obervantone wrote:
O'Hara's parents tried to fight the passing of the ordinance at the meeting, but were outnumbered.
Which says the owners of the other dogs of the same breed did not bother to turn out or express their opinions.  I would hope that in the next municipal election the folks impacted would be more involved in the process.

They did turn out. They were defeated because more of their friends and neighbors wanted their dogs destroyed.

Gives a real insight into what your fellow man is thinking.

And now the town cops are going to exterminate their dogs.

Einfach folgende bestellungen, richtig Kamerad?


What would you replace it with?

Ummm...a republic, with a Bill of Rights that has not been eviscerated into meaninglessness.

Hell, at this point I'd take a benign monarchy, we've already elevated the position of president to King.
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Post  WHL on Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:24 pm

That is what always happens. Not enough turn out, the minority turn out and therefore are the ones that are heard.
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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:30 pm

WHL wrote:That is what always happens.  Not enough turn out, the minority turn out and therefore are the ones that are heard.

Human nature is such that people have a natural tendency to boss other people around, be jealous of and try to take their stuff.

Some people are brave enough to just stick a gun in somebody's face and do it.

Other people vote to have proxies in uniform do it for them.

Those of us like you and me, who just want to be left alone and reciprocate the same thing to everybody else, are in the distinct and very small minority of human beings.
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Post  WHL on Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:42 pm

I guess we must be. Yes, that is what I want. Just leave me alone.
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Post  News Hawk on Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:48 pm

Anti Federalist wrote:
Family set to lose pit bull on Dec. 1 because of ban

http://www.kalb.com/story/27453471/family-set-to-lose-pit-bull-on-dec-1-because-of-ban

https://www.facebook.com/savingzeusybaby?pnref=story

I  have close observations of my friends' pit bulls. One died a natural death at age eight—only concerned with HIS tennis ball.  Another was taken in for a daughter who had left for college. After about eight months, that pit bull killed the much smaller—and far gentler—family dog. Others have a long history of violence to the families that owned them. Unfortunately, they haven't had their viciousness bred out of them—mostly due to the drug-gang leaders that keep them as a symbol of their power.

Given this problem, I'd move to a farm, where vicious dogs can only kill cats.  

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Post  Anti Federalist on Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:32 pm

News Hawk wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:
Family set to lose pit bull on Dec. 1 because of ban

http://www.kalb.com/story/27453471/family-set-to-lose-pit-bull-on-dec-1-because-of-ban

https://www.facebook.com/savingzeusybaby?pnref=story

I  have close observations of my friends' pit bulls. One died a natural death at age eight—only concerned with HIS tennis ball.  Another was taken in for a daughter who had left for college. After about eight months, that pit bull killed the much smaller—and far gentler—family dog. Others have a long history of violence to the families that owned them. Unfortunately, they haven't had their viciousness bred out of them—mostly due to the drug-gang leaders that keep them as a symbol of their power.

Given this problem, I'd move to a farm, where vicious dogs can only kill cats.  

pale

That said, please don't tell me you are in favor of the cops raiding homes and exterminating every pit and Rottweiler in town, are you?
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Post  News Hawk on Mon Nov 24, 2014 8:54 pm

(KHOU) TEXAS CITY, Texas -- ""A woman whose four dogs killed a neighbor's beagle is suing the owners of the dead dog for $1 million.

Emerald White's three pit bulldogs and a pit-bull mix broke through the families' common fence Oct. 27 to attack the 10-year-old beagle named Bailey. White, who has since moved from the home and could not be reached for comment, said in her lawsuit that she was seriously injured trying to stop the attack and retrieve her dogs..."
http://www.kcentv.com/story/27416645/texas-family-faces-1m-suit-after-their-beagle-is-attacked-killed

Some justification can be found in headlines every few days.

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