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The State Of The Union

Post  News Buzzard on Wed Jan 21, 2015 10:29 am

All of Obama's proposals at the State of the Union are very popular with Americans, but won't go anywhere with the party of No!

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/01/20/3613303/bipartisan-support-sotu/

Meanwhile, new Senator, Joni Ernst, whiffed on all topics in true Republican fashion:

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2015/01/20/3613571/joni-ernst-sotu-response/

Obama wasn't going to get anything done even if the Democrats had kept the Senate, but it's very smart to build popular support for progressive policies going into 2016! The Republicans hold the congress now and it's their responsibility to pass legislation that is not radical! In the meantime, the Democrats in the Senate and Obama will be there to cancel out the Koch brothers driven agenda.

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Post  Outerlimits on Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:17 am

Obama said each and every one of his policies was on the ballot in 2014. America soundly rejected them. If you disagree with that, well then your argument is with Obama. A speech full of progressive propaganda by the lamest of lame ducks is not going to suddenly change that.

In the eyes of any objective observer who hasn't had a lobotomy, the SOTU speech was nothing more than a showcase of Obama’s narcissism and stubbornness. It did little more than send another tingle down the leg of his progressive supporters and low information voters that still have a high school crush on a man. He is clearly incompetent; his policies have completely failed and have damaged progressives and the Democrat party.
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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Jan 21, 2015 12:04 pm

The mid-term didn't mean a hill of beans. The important numbers you need to remember are approval ratings, and Obama is up 35 points on your derelicts!!

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Post  Outerlimits on Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:27 pm

News Buzzard wrote:The mid-term didn't mean a hill of beans.

Of course you believe that nonsense…

The will of the people is insignificant to those who know what is best for them.  As Obama said “elections have consequences”.  That is true even when your side comes out on the losing end.


News Buzzard wrote:The important numbers you need to remember are approval ratings, and Obama is up 35 points on your derelicts!!

Congress’ approval rating means nothing, nada, zilch on the national level.  

They are elected by their individual states and districts and that is the only place their popularity matters.
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Post  WHL on Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:30 pm

Depends on the definition of "RADICAL", NB? I think O and the Dems are radical, you think the Repubs are radical.
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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:50 pm

HaHa! You've all been trying to destroy Obama for 6 years, and he is sitting on a 50% approval rating!! Meanwhile you have idiots like Rand Paul burying himself in Mitt Romney's 47% theme. Doesn't Paul realize that Romney lost the election over his 47% remarks? And of course let's add 2 time loser, Mitt Romney to gum up the works on the Republican side. I'm going to enjoy watching them implode over the next 2 years. We're going to save the country with Keystone Pipeline!!!  lol!

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Post  Anti Federalist on Wed Jan 21, 2015 3:56 pm

News Buzzard wrote:HaHa! You've all been trying to destroy Obama for 6 years, and he is sitting on a 50% approval rating!! Meanwhile you have idiots like Rand Paul burying himself in Mitt Romney's 47% theme. Doesn't Paul realize that Romney lost the election over his 47% remarks? And of course let's add 2 time loser, Mitt Romney to gum up the works on the Republican side. I'm going to enjoy watching them implode over the next 2 years. We're going to save the country with Keystone Pipeline!!!  lol!

Just out of curiosity, at what percentage of producing class to parasite class does the host die, in your opinion?

47/53?

30/70?

20/80?
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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:10 pm

A progressive government doesn't recognize a parasite class. I don't believe in waste and fraud, but nothing is worse than condescension!! Wink

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Post  Anti Federalist on Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:46 pm

News Buzzard wrote:A progressive government doesn't recognize a parasite class. I don't believe in waste and fraud, but nothing is worse than condescension!! Wink

Well, OK then, what do you call a person that subsists, not by producing anything, but by the extorted loot of his fellow man?

Does a progressive realize that, at some point there will not be enough producers to support the non-producers?

Even the old USSR had that lesson driven home to them.
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Post  WHL on Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:57 pm

No, Anti, the answer is NO! They think there is no point at which the host dies.
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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:48 pm

Anti Federalist wrote:Well, OK then, what do you call a person that subsists, not by producing anything, but by the extorted loot of his fellow man?

That's fraud and I already told you I don't like it. I believe in hearing facts, not the BS rants of FOX News. The Republicans love to cut necessary government spending, and the first people who are frequently the first to go are the ones who investigate fraud. Cry me a real river, not some political BS!

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Post  News Hawk on Wed Jan 21, 2015 6:03 pm

WHL wrote:"...They think there is no point at which the host dies..."  

In Nature, it's a successful parasite that doesn't kill the host!



3. Incipient Mutualism. This model regards coevolution as actively cooperative, with both host and parasite evolving mutualistic attributes so as to promote the continued presence of the other.

As we've often discussed, the costs and benefits of a particular strategy determine the type of interaction that will occur. For example, a highly virulent parasite will produce more offspring per unit time, but will reduce the host's (and the parasite's) lifespan). A parasite would only want to adopt such a strategy if the host population is large and susceptible -- a parasite that kills its host before it can transmit itself to other hosts doesn't get any genes into the next generation.
http://classes.biology.ucsd.edu/old.web.classes/bieb164.SU99.2/lectures/lecture17.html

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Post  Anti Federalist on Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:04 pm

News Buzzard wrote:
Anti Federalist wrote:Well, OK then, what do you call a person that subsists, not by producing anything, but by the extorted loot of his fellow man?

That's fraud and I already told you I don't like it. I believe in hearing facts, not the BS rants of FOX News. The Republicans love to cut necessary government spending, and the first people who are frequently the first to go are the ones who investigate fraud. Cry me a real river, not some political BS!

Fraud?

So it's your position that the upside down state we find ourselves in now, WRT to producers vs. parasites, is the result of fraudulent welfare/disability/unemployment/VA/SS/HUD/WIC claims?

Let's assume all claims are legitimate.

What are the numbers?

70/30

40/50

25/75
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Post  News Hawk on Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:06 pm

News Buzzard wrote:"...The mid-term didn't mean a hill of beans..."

Even ACORN didn't show up...!

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Post  Anti Federalist on Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:19 pm

News Hawk wrote:
WHL wrote:"...They think there is no point at which the host dies..."  

In Nature, it's a successful parasite that doesn't kill the host!



3. Incipient Mutualism. This model regards coevolution as actively cooperative, with both host and parasite evolving mutualistic attributes so as to promote the continued presence of the other.

As we've often discussed, the costs and benefits of a particular strategy determine the type of interaction that will occur. For example, a highly virulent parasite will produce more offspring per unit time, but will reduce the host's (and the parasite's) lifespan). A parasite would only want to adopt such a strategy if the host population is large and susceptible -- a parasite that kills its host before it can transmit itself to other hosts doesn't get any genes into the next generation.
http://classes.biology.ucsd.edu/old.web.classes/bieb164.SU99.2/lectures/lecture17.html

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Cymothoa exigua, or the tongue-eating louse, is a parasitic crustacean of the family Cymothoidae. This parasite enters fish through the gills, and then attaches itself to the fish's tongue. The female attaches to the tongue and the male attaches on the gill arches beneath and behind the female. The parasite destroys the fish's tongue, and then attaches itself to the stub of what was once its tongue and becomes the fish's new tongue.
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