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Post  News Hawk on Sun Feb 01, 2015 9:16 am

New York Times publishes a "correction' re Boehner's invitation to Israel's Netanyahu:

Commentary regarding the above...



The White House deliberately created this “crisis” to impugn Netanyahu and undercut support for him and Israel. No less than Senator Harry Reid blamed this diplomatic faux paus entirely on Boehner and Netanyahu for undercutting support for Israel among Democrats . The media, or much of it, has been relentlessly attacking Israel over a lie promoted by people in the administration.

More taqiyya from Obama's White House!

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Post  News Buzzard on Sun Feb 01, 2015 10:35 am

As usual I don't see any link to anything, and probably a paragraph taken out of context. Netanyahu campaigned for Romney in 2012 and lost! Now he is using Boehner's stunt invitation to drum up support for further sanctions on Iran in Congress. Netanyahu overlooks 3 facts by participating in this charade:

1-Article ll of the US Constitution grants foreign affairs responsibility only to the US President.

2-Boehner's congress doesn't have the votes to override a presidential veto for further sanctions on Iran.

3-Boehner can't put boots on the ground in the Middle East to help out Israel. Only Obama can!

Netanyahu is kissing up to the wrong guy, and will have a long rest of Obama's term to deal with the President! They don't seem all that thrilled with this stunt in Israel either:

http://triblive.com/usworld/world/7682949-74/netanyahu-israel-israeli#axzz3QVUpBqQr

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Post  News Hawk on Sun Feb 01, 2015 1:40 pm

News Buzzard wrote:"...As usual I don't see any link to anything..."
Really?

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)......"In 2011, Boehner sent a notice to the WH stating his intention to invite Netanyahu to speak before a joint session of Congress. The White House never responded (spite? incompetence?) and Boehner proceeded to extend the invitation to Netanyahu. Netanyahu accepted the invitation and spoke.

The White House did not express any outrage in 2011. That was before the 2012 reelection, of course, so Obama did not want to run the risk of losing any [Jewish] support."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/01/story_that_boehner_blindsided_obama_on_netanyahu_invitation_was_manufactured_agitprop.html#.VM16nZ-A3_Y.twitter

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Post  News Buzzard on Sun Feb 01, 2015 2:27 pm

There is a big difference between 2011 and now. In 2011 Boehner notified the White House. This year he didn't, and the facts still don't change. Boehner will never get legislation passed for more sanctions, and now he won't even get a bill to the president's desk! Bibi's speech is to bolster his own campaign!

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Post  News Buzzard on Sun Feb 01, 2015 3:35 pm

The US President has plenary powers in the foreign affairs field:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Curtiss-Wright_Export_Corp.

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Post  News Hawk on Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:49 pm

News Buzzard wrote:There is a big difference between 2011 and now. In 2011 Boehner notified the White House. This year he didn't, and the facts still don't change. Boehner will never get legislation passed for more sanctions, and now he won't even get a bill to the president's desk! Bibi's speech is to bolster his own campaign!

Perhaps you'd better advise the New York Times to correct their correction:

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Correction: January 30, 2015

An earlier version of this article misstated when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel accepted Speaker John A. Boehner’s invitation to address Congress. He accepted after the administration had been informed of the invitation, not before.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/us/politics/benjamin-netanyahu-is-talking-to-harry-reid-and-leading-democrats-to-little-effect-so-far.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=3

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More Chicago politics...bet Obama gets away with it. Most likely, it's his Chicago-based advisor Valerie Jarrett doing the "agitprop", as she was born in Iran.


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Post  News Hawk on Sun Feb 01, 2015 7:55 pm

Netanyahu fires back at 'Obama army' plotting his defeat...

EILAT, Israel – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party hit back Sunday at a U.S.-linked organization staffed with former Obama campaigners now working to defeat Netanyahu in an upcoming general election.

Victory 2015, or V15, attracted U.S. media attention after it hired 270 Strategies, a consulting firm whose senior leadership is comprised mostly of former top staffers for President Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign.
—WND
George Soros (and sons) at work behind the scenes over tiny Israel (in red) surrounded by an "Islamic-Caliphate-to-be"...



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Post  News Buzzard on Mon Feb 02, 2015 2:01 pm

The bottom line is that Obama should have been notified before the invitation was extended, as all foreign policy should run through the White House. Netanyahu tampered with Obama's election in 2012, so I have no sympathy for him if Obama is returning the favor! The congress still won't have the votes to override Obama's veto on the sanctions, so Boehner should wise up and remember how our government works. I don't think he'll ever learn because he tried to repeal Obamacare over 50 times!! It's kind of like that movie, Ground Hog Day! Rolling Eyes

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Post  Outerlimits on Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:14 pm

News Buzzard wrote:The bottom line is that Obama should have been notified before the invitation was extended, as all foreign policy should run through the White House. Netanyahu tampered with Obama's election in 2012, so I have no sympathy for him if Obama is returning the favor! The congress still won't have the votes to override Obama's veto on the sanctions, so Boehner should wise up and remember how our government works. I don't think he'll ever learn because he tried to repeal Obamacare over 50 times!! It's kind of like that movie, Ground Hog Day! Rolling Eyes


Congress has the chance to invite (or deny) any individual they choose the right to address them. No approval needed.

Conversely, if Obama chooses to meet, say, with some freak that eats Fruit Loops out of the bathtub while she's in it. Obama doesn't need Congressional approval.
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Post  News Hawk on Mon Feb 02, 2015 6:02 pm

News Buzzard wrote:"...The bottom line is that Obama should have been notified before the invitation was extended, as all foreign policy should run through the White House..."

Obama had been notified !

Remember, "New York Times public editor Margaret Sullivan said it’s 'the administration of unprecedented secrecy and unprecedented attacks on a free press.'”

You don't believe the New York Times own correction?

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Correction: January 30, 2015

An earlier version of this article misstated when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel accepted Speaker John A. Boehner’s invitation to address Congress. Netanyahu accepted after the administration had been informed of the invitation, not before.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/30/us/politics/benjamin-netanyahu-is-talking-to-harry-reid-and-leading-democrats-to-little-effect-so-far.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=3

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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Feb 04, 2015 6:26 pm

Outerlimits wrote:Congress has the chance to invite (or deny) any individual they choose the right to address them. No approval needed.

Jewish lawmakers wouldn't agree with that!! Wink

http://news.yahoo.com/dems-israeli-ambassador-earful-over-netanyahu-speech-172000377--politics.html

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Post  News Hawk on Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:18 pm

News Buzzard wrote:
Outerlimits wrote:Congress has the chance to invite (or deny) any individual they choose the right to address them. No approval needed.

Jewish lawmakers wouldn't agree with that!! Wink

http://news.yahoo.com/dems-israeli-ambassador-earful-over-netanyahu-speech-172000377--politics.html

Never the leader in accuracy, Yahoo News quotes the same, original lie!

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Post  News Buzzard on Fri Feb 06, 2015 2:09 pm


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Post  Outerlimits on Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:33 pm

From your article:

A top official is publicly claiming that John Boehner mislead the Israeli government into believing that President Obama had been notified and was on board with Prime Minister Netanyahu’s address to Congress.


Obama lied when the said the Whitehouse was not informed of Boehner’s invitation to Benjamin Netanyahu to speak before the Congress.

It must be difficult to keep tabs on all of Obama’s lies.


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Post  News Pigeon on Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:54 pm

Laughing From the article....


The plan was to humiliate President Obama and pressure him into approving new sanctions against Iran.

The claim that Israel was misled is dubious from every angle. There is no doubt that Speaker Boehner would play fast and loose with the facts. Pressure has been growing on Boehner domestically as President Obama’s popularity has surged after the Democratic midterm election defeat. Obama has taken a series of steps that seized the agenda and momentum away from the new Republican congressional majority.

It is likely that Boehner and Netanyahu viewed a speech before Congress as both an opportunity to divide Democrats at home while helping Netanyahu secure reelection in Israel. The plan has completely backfired. Netanyahu has been heavily criticized in Israel while congressional Democrats are in complete revolt in the United States.

The Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister’s comments were the first sign that the rats are fleeing the sinking ship. The finger pointing has begun.

The scheme to humiliate a sitting president has unraveled, as Obama remains stronger than ever.

What part of "Boehner lied" do you not understand?

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Post  Outerlimits on Fri Feb 06, 2015 4:22 pm

News Pigeon wrote:Laughing From the article....


The plan was to humiliate President Obama and pressure him into approving new sanctions against Iran.

The claim that Israel was misled is dubious from every angle. There is no doubt that Speaker Boehner would play fast and loose with the facts. Pressure has been growing on Boehner domestically as President Obama’s popularity has surged after the Democratic midterm election defeat. Obama has taken a series of steps that seized the agenda and momentum away from the new Republican congressional majority.

It is likely that Boehner and Netanyahu viewed a speech before Congress as both an opportunity to divide Democrats at home while helping Netanyahu secure reelection in Israel. The plan has completely backfired. Netanyahu has been heavily criticized in Israel while congressional Democrats are in complete revolt in the United States.

The Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister’s comments were the first sign that the rats are fleeing the sinking ship. The finger pointing has begun.

The scheme to humiliate a sitting president has unraveled, as Obama remains stronger than ever.

What part of "Boehner lied" do you not understand?


^ ^ All this is supposition. ^ ^

It is a claim, not a fact and it’s all based on Obama’s original lie. Well not his actual original lie but the first lie he told about this incident.

Now I know trying to keep up with this administration’s half-truths, deception, misdirection and lies can be confusing but hey, you dumped him on the rest of us.


The fact is: The White House knew about the invitation in advance and Obama lied about it.

The lie was put forth to make Netanyahu look bad.  (Admittedly this is supposition on my part but I am open to hearing a better explanation.)
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Post  News Hawk on Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:07 pm

Outerlimits wrote:It must be difficult to keep tabs on all of Obama’s lies.

Those in this inept administration have likely shredded any related documents—can't locate the e-mails—or suffered a computer failure. It's what we expect.

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Post  News Pigeon on Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:10 pm

Outerlimits wrote:
News Pigeon wrote:Laughing From the article....


The plan was to humiliate President Obama and pressure him into approving new sanctions against Iran.

The claim that Israel was misled is dubious from every angle. There is no doubt that Speaker Boehner would play fast and loose with the facts. Pressure has been growing on Boehner domestically as President Obama’s popularity has surged after the Democratic midterm election defeat. Obama has taken a series of steps that seized the agenda and momentum away from the new Republican congressional majority.

It is likely that Boehner and Netanyahu viewed a speech before Congress as both an opportunity to divide Democrats at home while helping Netanyahu secure reelection in Israel. The plan has completely backfired. Netanyahu has been heavily criticized in Israel while congressional Democrats are in complete revolt in the United States.

The Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister’s comments were the first sign that the rats are fleeing the sinking ship. The finger pointing has begun.

The scheme to humiliate a sitting president has unraveled, as Obama remains stronger than ever.

What part of "Boehner lied" do you not understand?


^ ^ [b]All this is supposition.[/b] ^ ^



The lie was put forth to make Netanyahu look bad.  (Admittedly this is supposition on my part but I am open to hearing a better explanation.)

Sooooo....are we to believe that your supposition counts as credible but the article doesn't?? Man, that's having it both ways, don't you think?

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Post  News Hawk on Fri Feb 06, 2015 5:37 pm

Outerlimits wrote:What part of "Boehner lied" do you not understand?

Save your breath: the article is from (again) Politicususa. Note the tone of the other articles...


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