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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:51 am

Another Republican star comes up with a nonsensical budget:  Rolling Eyes

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/02/04/3618996/walker-budget-officials/

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These are the Newscasters Who are Responsible for Americans' News..."Stolen Valor"

Post  News Hawk on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:35 am

News Buzzard wrote:Hillary in 2016!!



A shifting story

Like Kerry and Hillary"Misremembering"
NBC’s Brian Williams recants Iraq story after soldiers protest.


Stars and Stripes

WASHINGTON — NBC Nightly News anchor Brian Williams admitted Wednesday he was not aboard a helicopter hit and forced down by RPG fire during the invasion of Iraq in 2003, a false claim that has been repeated by the network for years.

'I spent much of the weekend thinking I'd gone crazy. I feel terrible about making this mistake'

Williams repeated the claim Friday during NBC’s coverage of a public tribute at a New York Rangers hockey game for a retired soldier that had provided ground security for the grounded helicopters, a game to which Williams accompanied him. In an interview with Stars and Stripes, he said he had misremembered the events and was sorry.

The admission came after crew members on the 159th Aviation Regiment’s Chinook that was hit by two rockets and small arms fire told Stars and Stripes that the NBC anchor was nowhere near that aircraft or two other Chinooks flying in the formation that took fire. Williams arrived in the area about an hour later on another helicopter after the other three had made an emergency landing, the crew members said.

“I would not have chosen to make this mistake,” Williams said. “I don’t know what screwed up in my mind that caused me to conflate one aircraft with another.”

Williams told his Nightly News audience that the erroneous claim was part of a "bungled attempt" to thank soldiers who helped protect him in Iraq in 2003. “I made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago,” Williams said. “I want to apologize.”

Williams made the claim about the incident while presenting NBC coverage of the tribute to the retired command sergeant major at the Rangers game Friday. Fans gave the soldier a standing ovation.

“The story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of Iraq when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an RPG,” Williams said on the broadcast. “Our traveling NBC News team was rescued, surrounded and kept alive by an armor mechanized platoon from the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry.”

Williams and his camera crew were actually aboard a Chinook in a formation that was about an hour behind the three helicopters that came under fire, according to crew member interviews.

That Chinook took no fire and landed later beside the damaged helicopter due to an impending sandstorm from the Iraqi desert, according to Sgt. 1st Class Joseph Miller, who was the flight engineer on the aircraft that carried the journalists.

“No, we never came under direct enemy fire to the aircraft,” he said Wednesday.

The helicopters, along with the NBC crew, remained on the ground at a forward operating base west of Baghdad for two or three days, where they were surrounded by an Army unit with Bradley fighting vehicles and Abrams M-1 tanks.

Miller said he never saw any direct fire on the position from Iraqi forces.

The claim rankled Miller as well as soldiers aboard the formation of 159th Aviation Regiment Chinooks that were flying far ahead and did come under attack during the March 24, 2003, mission.

One of the helicopters was hit by two rocket-propelled grenades — one did not detonate but passed through the airframe and rotor blades — as well as small arms fire.

“It was something personal for us that was kind of life-changing for me. I know how lucky I was to survive it,” said Lance Reynolds, who was the flight engineer. “It felt like a personal experience that someone else wanted to participate in and didn’t deserve to participate in.”

Reynolds said Williams and the NBC cameramen arrived in a helicopter 30 to 60 minutes after his damaged Chinook made a rolling landing at an Iraqi airfield and skidded off the runway into the desert.

He said Williams approached and took photos of the damage, but Reynolds brushed them off because the crew was assessing damage and he was worried that his wife, who was alone in Germany, might see the news report.

“I wanted to tell her myself everything was all right before she got news of this happening,” Reynolds said.

The NBC crew stayed only for about 10 minutes and then went to see the Army armored units that had been guarding the nearby Forward Operating Base Rams and came out to provide a security perimeter around the aircraft. Tim Terpak, the command sergeant major who accompanied Williams to the Rangers game, was among those soldiers, and the two struck up a friendship.

Miller, Reynolds and Mike O’Keeffe, who was a door gunner on the damaged Chinook, said they all recall NBC reporting that Williams was aboard the aircraft that was attacked, despite it being false. The NBC online archive shows the network broadcast a news story on March 26, 2003, with the headline, “Target Iraq: Helicopter NBC’s Brian Williams Was Riding In Comes Under Fire.”

Williams disputed Wednesday claims the initial reports were inaccurate, saying he originally reported he was in another helicopter but later confused the events. In a 2008 NBC blog post with his byline, he wrote that the “Chinook helicopter flying in front of ours (from the 101st Airborne) took an RPG to the rear rotor.”

O’Keeffe said the incident has bothered him since he and others first saw the original report after returning to Kuwait.

“Over the years it faded,” he said, “and then to see it last week it was — I can’t believe he is still telling this false narrative.”

In a letter to his mother from Sean Ward, who guarded a shot-down Chinook puts the shot-down Chinook and Brian Williams in same spot (“middle of Iraq, south of the Euphrates river”), but does not mention of Williams being in the shot down Chinook.

“NBC News' Brian Williams … and NBC consultant Ret. Gen. Wayne Downing went on a helicopter mission to an Iraq site where troops were building a bridge. However, during the trip a man on the ground pulled a tarp off of his pickup truck and launched a rocket-fired grenade. The first chopper was hit and forced to land. Then the one carrying Williams and Downing landed.

“NBC's Brian Williams was stranded in the Iraqi desert for three days after a Chinook helicopter ahead of his was attacked by a man who fired a rocket-propelled grenade. The grenade just missed, but it forced the group to make an emergency landing. Luckily, a U.S. tank platoon was there and surrounded the helicopters, killing four Iraqis.

“[Downing] talked me into going on a "day trip" with an Army Reserve Unit -- a flotilla of four twin-rotor Chinook helicopters on a mission we couldn't discuss. [Soon] some men on the ground fired an RPG through the tail rotor of the chopper flying in front of ours. There was small arms fire. … All four choppers dropped their heavy loads and landed quickly and hard on the desert floor. ...”

“Just days into the war, Williams was traveling on a U.S. Army Chinook helicopter mission when the lead helicopter was shot down by a rocket-propelled grenade. Williams spent three days and two nights in the Iraqi desert south of Najaf, with a mechanized armored tank platoon of the Army’s Third Infantry Division providing protection.”

“The story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of Iraq, when the helicopter we were travelling in was forced down after being hit by an RPG. Our travelling NBC news team was rescued and kept alive by an Armored Mechanized Platoon from the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry.”

Williams, Kerry and Hillary—all peas in a "misremembered" pod.

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  News Hawk on Thu Feb 05, 2015 8:45 am

News Buzzard wrote:Another Republican star comes up with a nonsensical budget:  Rolling Eyes

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/02/04/3618996/walker-budget-officials/

Your source is loaded with partisan rhetoric. Don't you think "thinkprogress.org" could've found an actual photo of Republican Joni Ernst?



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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  News Pigeon on Thu Feb 05, 2015 9:09 am

Looks about right to me....that wig is pathetic!

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A Complicit Media...

Post  News Hawk on Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:07 am



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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  Outerlimits on Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:39 am

News Buzzard wrote:Another Republican star comes up with a nonsensical budget:  Rolling Eyes

http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/02/04/3618996/walker-budget-officials/

Hillary in 2016!!

Did you see Obama's budget? Rolling Eyes

I find it funny Democrats like to give advice, but they don't realize how much their bias affect their analysis. In their mind, the best Republican is the person who makes them the least angry. Democrats do not only dislike conservatives, they also don't like candidates who is successful in implementing conservative reforms. That means Democrats always recommend uninspiring moderates.

But if you look at the election history, uninspiring moderates do not win elections. To win an election it is not only important to attract independent voters, it is equally important to fire up your base. Democrats get that when they nominate candidates themselves.


The left still pines away for Jon Huntsman and repeatedly lie by claiming they would seriously consider him or any other Republican, much less vote for him. People who elected the most liberal President in U.S History aren't interested in voting for a moderate. They want another left wing extremist like Obama.

While I am not a big fan of Walker, he thwarted every effort the left has come up with to destroy him. Wisconsin is doing much better under Scott Walker. He's lowered the deficit and he's doing exactly what he said he would, that's why the leftist hate him.
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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  News Buzzard on Thu Feb 05, 2015 1:14 pm

Wisconsin is near the bottom of the pile in job creation and they're looking at a $2 billion deficit while Walker keeps insisting on more tax cuts! Rolling Eyes Doyle had an excuse for the deficit on his watch. It was called The Great Recession! Remember that? That was the near financial meltdown that your guy presided over!!! The good news is Walker doesn't stand a chance on the national scene, and the Koch boys won't be able to buy the White House for him!

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  News Hawk on Thu Feb 05, 2015 4:13 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Hillary in 2016!!

Brian WIlliams isn't the only "mis-rememberer" in Washington, DC...


Attkisson still has the video from her story notes that compared what Clinton said happened vs. what she says actually happened.

“The video showed, and I thought that this was a pretty good way to explain it—I put her in a box saying ‘we get off the plane and we had to duck and run for cover and there was sniper fire and then I show the video of what was really happening and she’s getting off the plane and she’s waving, shaking hands with a little school girl…”
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2015/02/05/sharyl-attkisson-brian-williams-not-alone-hillary-clinton-lied-about-being-shot-at-in-bosnia/

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  WHL on Thu Feb 05, 2015 6:16 pm

Isn't it amazing the audacity these people have. How could Brian Williams, a person the uninformed people trust tell such a bold faced lie????? But you can bet the liberals will still be behind him. It only matters if the conservatives lie.
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Yes, I "Misremembered" That Shooting At Me...

Post  News Hawk on Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:02 pm

Williams "misremembered", as did Hillary:

In a speech in Washington and in several interviews last week Hillary Clinton described how she and her daughter, Chelsea, ran for cover under hostile fire shortly after her plane landed in Tuzla, Bosnia.


Several news outlets disputed the claim, and a video of the trip showed Clinton walking from the plane, accompanied by her daughter. . .

"I did make a mistake in talking about it, you know, the last time and recently," Clinton told reporters in Pennsylvania where she was campaigning before the state's April 22 primary. She said she had a "different memory" about the landing."
—reason.com

Must've been that falling incident that happened just recently...

Rolling Eyes

What is it about Liberal-Progressives?


Liberals sure have a lot of bad memories...

Being named after Mt. Everest Climber Hilary (before he climbed Everest)
Remembering racist church fires in Arkansas
Memories of serving in Cambodia
Memories of your Native American Heritage

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  WHL on Thu Feb 05, 2015 7:46 pm

What difference does it make????
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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  News Pigeon on Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:27 am

yeah, lets talk about liars....in today's local paper, The Key West Citizen

Realtor charged with fraudulent Homestead exemption, faces felony grand theft charge and misdemeanor charge of fraudulent claim of homestead exemption while renting out the homesteaded property.
The Monroe County Property Appraiser's Office said it "very aggressively" investigates homestead fraud, saying it siphons funding from police, fire, EMS and schools, and can lower our quality of life in Monroe County when people cheat.

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Post  News Buzzard on Fri Feb 06, 2015 9:32 am

Great!! I hope they continue to pursue cheaters!!

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Post  News Hawk on Fri Feb 06, 2015 10:19 am

News Buzzard wrote:Great!! I hope they continue to pursue cheaters!!

Including these?

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  News Buzzard on Fri Feb 06, 2015 12:48 pm

News Pigeon wrote:yeah, lets talk about liars....in today's local paper, The Key West Citizen

Realtor charged with fraudulent Homestead exemption, faces felony grand theft charge and misdemeanor charge of fraudulent claim of homestead exemption while renting out the homesteaded property.
The Monroe County Property Appraiser's Office said it "very aggressively" investigates homestead fraud, saying it siphons funding from police, fire, EMS and schools, and can lower our quality of life in Monroe County when people cheat.

Conservative war mongers feel entitled to cheat!!! afro

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Post  News Pigeon on Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:56 pm

Yep, they're like vermin crawling around down here.....the arrogance they display is unbelievable to us peaceful and hospitable citizens who actually live here!!

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  News Pigeon on Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:08 am

From today's local paper:

Key West Police Officer, Gary Lovette, faces Homestead fraud charges. Officer Lovette rented out his house at Islander Village in 2010 while claiming a homestead exemption of $25,000.

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Brian Williams Stepping Aside...! Just a few thousand more to go...

Post  News Hawk on Sat Feb 07, 2015 6:11 pm

Williams' message about going on hiatus from the show can be seen, below.

"In the midst of a career spent covering and consuming news, it has become painfully apparent to me that I am presently too much a part of the news, due to my actions.

"As managing editor of NBC Nightly News, I have decided to take myself off of my daily broadcast for the next several days, and Lester Holt has kindly agreed to sit in for me to allow us to adequately deal with this issue. Upon my return, I will continue my career-long effort to be worthy of the trust of those who place their trust in us."
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/brian-williams-stepping-away-nbc-771102

Sorry, Brian, once you lose the trust of the nation, there's no going back...

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Post  News Hawk on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:48 pm

Another whopper has surfaced:

Surprised


Another Williams Chopper Tale!

NBC Anchor Claims Hezbollah Rockets Buzzed His Helicopter During Israel War Completely separate from the 2003 Iraq helicopter incident Brian Williams confessed to lying about this week, thanks to a Twitter user who alerted Ace Of Spades, we now have a 2007 video of Williams claiming he was involved in a hairy wartime incident involving a different helicopter during a different war. According to the NBC Nightly News anchor, during “the war with Hezballah in Israel, a few years back … there were Katuyshka rockets passing just beneath the helicopter I was riding in.
—Breitbart

This is a guy who is paid $40,000 a day to "bring" us the nightly news!

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Brian is seen with Amelia Earhart, among others...!

Post  News Hawk on Mon Feb 09, 2015 6:35 am

Other stories sure to surface...

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Re: Wisconsin Woes

Post  News Buzzard on Mon Feb 09, 2015 8:50 am

What does Brian Williams have to do with Wisconsin??

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Obama Lied and Williams Lied...They should be kicked off presenting "facts"...

Post  News Hawk on Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:48 pm

News Buzzard wrote:What does Brian Williams have to do with Wisconsin??

Clinton* lied, Obama lied, and now since Brian Williams has been caught lying, has he been telling America nightly the truth about Wisconsin's Woes?

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All MSM Networks Hit Hard...

Post  News Hawk on Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:11 pm

‘Nightly News’ Takes Ratings Hit During Brian Williams Crises

Preliminary Nielsen ratings show “NBC Nightly News” dropped -36% on Friday from last week’s Monday-Thursday average among A25-54 viewers.

NBC’s competitors were down too, but not as much: ABC was down -16% while CBS was down -17% on Friday.
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Oh well, they were probably losing money on news programing anyway.

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