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Post  WHL on Wed May 25, 2016 12:46 pm

You are right, O. It's like talking to a wall.
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Post  Amy B on Wed May 25, 2016 6:08 pm

But you still haven't given us a breakdown on those accidents, O. Why? Were they mostly "fender benders" at the town dock ? A fisherman who fell out of his boat? Or the one I know of where the ski boat backed over the skier. All you seem to be able to do is parrot: "there have been more accidents since the speed limit" and the tired and trite phrase "solution in search of a problem". I suspect you are not answering this question because it punches a hundred holes in your argument. For someone who keeps talking about FACTS you seem to have precious few of them.
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Post  News Hawk on Wed May 25, 2016 7:04 pm

obervantone wrote:"...It also won't Change the FACT that since speed limits...the solution in search of a problem...went into effect the number of boating accidents has steadily risen...They will come up with all kind of excuses and blame this and that...the bottom line is, since speed limits went into effect accidents have increased...What a surprise!  
A concomitant occasion since enacting the S/L was the change in the NHMP leadership.

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Post  obervantone on Wed May 25, 2016 8:54 pm

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But you still haven't given us a breakdown on those accidents, O. Why? Were they mostly "fender benders" at the town dock ? A fisherman who fell out of his boat?
Apparently your knowledge of what is a reportable accident is lacking. No "fender benders" or fisherman falling out of a boat.
Federal law requires the boat operator to submit a casualty or accident report to the State reporting authority when as a result of an occurence that involves the vessel or its equipment . If the operator is unable to submit the report then the owner must submit the report.
•A person dies
•A person disappears from the vessel under circumstances that indicate death or injury
•A person is injured and requires medical treatment beyond first aid
•Damage to vessels and other property totals $2,000 (lower amounts in some states and territories).
•The boat is destroyed.
The solution in search of a problem has not solved anything. Boating accidents increased every year. That's the bitch about facts. No matter how you try to spin them, the bottom line still remains the same.
You guys were wrong.

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Post  Amy B on Wed May 25, 2016 9:34 pm

Then why won't you give us the breakdown on these "accidents"?

And if you feel so strongly about the issue at hand, why not take it to Concord and try to repeal said legislation (I guarantee though, your opponents will turn up full force yet again). I can give you a hint as to why no one in the state house wants to touch the SL issue any longer. Some of the sponsors/supporters of the anti SL legislation were viewed in Concord as not having a great deal of integrity or maturity. Here is one example of a major opponent of reasonable SL legislation. He fought against the SL bill with a vengeance. I understand he is no longer going to run to defend his seat in the Senate.
https://youtu.be/ansR3Q0CtcA
https://youtu.be/1A2SzR5woks

 We should all be concerned when people who behave this way feel they are capable and worthy of dictating what is appropriate for the Granite State.
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Post  obervantone on Thu May 26, 2016 10:49 pm

AmyB...It's-Not-News Hawk...
Your side won lying and having the money to hire lobbyists to perpetuate the lie in Concord.

Now the law has been on the books for several years and low and behold, speed was not the problem and the lake is not a safer place as you and your ilk promised.

Boating accidents have been steadily on the increase.

Sooner or later the folks in Concord will realize that they were lied to.

Something to be proud of, no?




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Post  Amy B on Fri May 27, 2016 7:34 am

Look at the facts my friend. Polls of NH and Lake's Region residents do not lie. And your side lost for another reason as well. A severe credibility problem. You could start with NHRBA and the damaged reputation of it's spokesperson. And it goes on and on from there with SBONH. One of my favorites was the story published by The Sun. You remember, don't you? Of course you do. Something to the tune of the SL supporters being so old they would be dead by the time of the vote on the SL bill. Running shoes with velcro ties. I think you lost that day alone. You lost because you were viewed in Concord as a bunch of hooligans. And some of your supporters in the legislature (see youtube clips from my earlier post) seemed to have a few credibility problems of their own.
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Post  obervantone on Fri May 27, 2016 2:00 pm

Nope, we lost because legislators were lied to.

The experts on boating safety on the lake, the NH Marine Patrol, testified that speeding boats were not an issue on Lake Winnipesaukee, yet you and your kind painted Winnipesaukee as the most dangerous place on the planet, and paid lobbyists to convince legislators and the public of that lie, when in fact it was among the safest places to boat in the nation.

You won, and what happened?  

The number of boating accidents have steadily climbed from 24 in 2010 to 53 last year.

You got your wish, Winnipesaukee is dangerous now.  

Congratulations. affraid


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SUPs—New Since 2010 on Winnipesaukee...

Post  News Hawk on Sat May 28, 2016 6:27 am

WHL wrote:You are right, O.  It's like talking to a wall.

The "wall" happens to not like bringing specifics into his generalized argument.

No

For example, how many reports of Winnipesaukee accidents included SUPs?

SUPs are considered watercraft, and the helmsman (and every human passenger) must possess a PFD.

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Re: I see things have been busy since last I were here

Post  Amy B on Sat May 28, 2016 7:28 am

obervantone wrote:Nope, we lost because legislators were lied to.

The experts on boating safety on the lake, the NH Marine Patrol, testified that speeding boats were not an issue on Lake Winnipesaukee, yet you and your kind painted Winnipesaukee as the most dangerous place on the planet, and paid lobbyists to convince legislators and the public of that lie, when in fact it was among the safest places to boat in the nation.

You won, and what happened?  

The number of boating accidents have steadily climbed from 24 in 2010 to 53 last year.

You got your wish, Winnipesaukee is dangerous now.  

Congratulations. affraid



Yet so strange how you have yet to give us the breakdown of said accidents. Your kindergarten mentality whereby you claim accidents have increased while ignoring wake jumping jet skiers, irresponsible tubers, hapless fishermen, and skiers injured by boats (IN REVERSE) is absurd and laughable. No one claimed a SL could mitigate this. But at least fatalities have been at zero for several years now. You lost for a myriad of reasons and you might do your cause less damage by manning up to your side’s responsibility for the outcome. But like a 5 year old child that cries to his mother “It’s not fair, they cheated, wah wah wah" you persist. Life of course is not fair but you lost this one badly. Can you imagine a near four to one landslide vote (as we had in the NH state house vote on the SL) in a presidential election? Such a landslide would be unheard of in national politics. Ditto greater than 3:1 in the Lake’s Region polls. I do think the NH public and legislature are intelligent enough to read between the lines and distinguish truth from rubbish (or as you you phrased it a tiresome 4 times in a recent post, BS * ). Apparently you believe the NH people and state legislators are a bunch of dolts who believe anything they are told.

 But you persist with your petulant and accusatory dialogue. Your espousal of tenuous logic and outlandish accusations encourages rebuttals which highlight many of the “warts” in your sides position and behavior, revealing more of the humiliating details as to why your side lost, whether it be legislative supporters who go on to be filmed seemingly plastered in bars, landslide polls and votes, and embarrassing revelations of what goes on in your meetings. This is why you indeed might not be a good spokesperson for your side of the argument. You are doing your losing side a disservice by your immature and knowingly deceptive rants. You lost. Stop being a crybaby about it and own up to your side’s part in it.

And PS: BTW you may try to portray all SL supporters as NPR listening, Volvo driving pacifists. As far my family's thoughts go regarding alcohol, obscenity, and such…we are hardly prudes or shrinking violets in those departments. We love a glass of wine or 2 at night, use 4 letter words with discretion in the privacy of our home, and my husband even owns firearms and protects our home with high tech video monitoring. Hardly the liberal stereotype some of the SL opponents have tried to pin on the opposition.

*As in some of your previous dialogues where you express yourself with such phrases as "you son of a bitch, are you f-ing kidding, and you’re a jackass”, then I suppose 4 BS’s in a post does represent an improvement and I applaud your efforts. But keep in mind, as pointed out in earlier threads, profanity seldom does a great deal to promote one’s credibility, insight, or intelligence. And as someone once said, profanity is the crutch of a weak and inarticulate mind trying to express itself.
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Post  obervantone on Sat May 28, 2016 3:20 pm

Laughing  my dialog is far from accusatory, it is just laced with something you are not accustomed with...facts.  

The fact is speed limits was sold as bringing a dangerous lake full of speeding boats that terroized summer campers and caused scores of deaths and hideous injuries, under control.  

Experts and everyone who has ever boated on Lake Winnipesaukee knew that to be a line of crap, so lobbyists were hired by the crowd trying to keep boats they don't like off the lake to sell the lie to legislators and the public.  
It worked, a majority of the state's legislators and much of the public bought the lies that they were sold.

The outcome?

You now resort to name calling when the facts show that since fixed speed limits, the solution in search of a problem, were implemented, accidents have risen to the the point that they have more than doubled before a fixed speed limit was imposed.

Yep, you won the fight over imposing unnecessary fixed speed limits, but your self fulfilling prophecy has come to pass.
 
The lake is now dangerous.

Congratulations.

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Post  Amy B on Sat May 28, 2016 5:52 pm

And here are some more facts. Truly amazing. Over 1,000 lakes and ponds in NH over 10 acres and over 100 considered major water bodies. The US Coast Guard publishes (for 2014) 44 recreational boat accidents for all of NH including the coast. How does one extrapolate data for this many water bodies to one water body (Winni) without data specific for Winni itself?


And another point regarding your intentional deceit. In your FIRST post on this thread you listed data:

2011…36 accidents
2012…40 accidents
2013…40 accidents
2014…44 accidents
2015…53 accidents

  And you call this a slow and steady increase.

 But funny, from the same Coast Guard website you chose to omit the 2010 data:

2010…46 accidents.
https://www.uscgboating.org/library/accident-statistics/Recreational-Boating-Statistics-2014.pdf    see p.62

so let's update your list:

2010...46 accidents
2011...36 accidents
2012...40 accidents
2013...40 accidents
2014...44 accidents
2015...53 accidents

 Accidents in all of NH actually decreased for the years 2010 -2014 from their 2010 level. But again, this is all of NH including the ocean! No data is given for Winni. And no statistical analysis.

Now lets look at the 2013 Coast Guard report which will give us data for back to 2009:
http://www.uscgboating.org/assets/1/AssetManager/2013RecBoatingStats.pdf     See page 59
EEK…there were 60 accidents in 2009!

So let's update your list yet again:
2009...60 accidents
2010...46 accidents
2011...36 accidents
2012...40 accidents
2013...40 accidents
2014...44 accidents
2015...53 accidents

But again, this is all of NH including the ocean. But why did you choose to leave out 2009 and 2010? I think we know.

Do the readers of this forum a favor and look up the phrases "statistical analysis” and "statistical significance", apply what you learn to the 1,000 lakes and ponds and the coast and how this all applies to Winni alone.
  If you expect the readers of this forum to swallow this rubbish than you seem to have no more respect for their abilities to separate fact from fiction than you do for our state legislators and our NH citizens.

OO you are a fraud!
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Post  obervantone on Sat May 28, 2016 11:39 pm

Now you are making the argument that there are more boats on other bodies of water, including the NH coastline which has significantly less area than Winnipesaukee and contains mostly beaches, not marinas or docks, than on Winnipesaukee?

The facts remain, since unnecessary fixed speed limits went into effect the number of accidents have increased annually and in looking at your numbers, last year's accidents were just 7 shy of 2009, but how can that be?  The fixed speed limits were sold as a be all to end all by paid lobbyists to the legislature and public.

No my confused friend, it is you that is the fraud.

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Post  Amy B on Sun May 29, 2016 8:23 am

My data and facts speak for themselves. Perhaps your next crusade should be to try to convince our readers of the existence of leprechauns and unicorns.
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Post  obervantone on Sun May 29, 2016 10:47 pm

Yes they do.
You and your like lied to the legislature and the public, and after several attempts you hired lobbyists to convince legislators and the public of those lies.
You got speed limits imposed in spite of testimony of boating experts that speed has never been a problem.
Since the law went on the books the number of accidents has increased annually.
Those are the numbers. Congratulations.

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They Can't Put Anything on the Internet That Isn't True...

Post  News Hawk on Mon May 30, 2016 4:24 am

Ah, yes, the old days of oversized Poker Run boats.



Anyone spot the sailboat in the lower half of the picture?

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Post  Amy B on Mon May 30, 2016 7:25 am

I love it. Posting Coast Guard data for all of N.H.'s near 1000 lakes and ponds and the ocean (and omitting 2009 and 2010 data), and then insisting this shows Winni to be less safe.

  Hey, someone call the MP...I think I just saw a unicorn driving a jet ski and recklessly jumping the Mount's wake. Wasn't the SL supposed to stop this kind of behavior? Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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Post  Amy B on Mon May 30, 2016 7:58 am

Here's one accident that contributed to OO's 2015 "statistics". Wasn't the SL supposed to stop these accidents? I just don't feel safe on Winnipesaukee anymore. Stay tuned folks...I found many more boating accidents from all over the state and on the coast. And a few on Winni where the boat was in reverse, all contributing to OO's "stats".

CONCORD, NH – Divers from the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department's Specialized Dive Team recovered the body of a 68-year-old man from Turkey Pond in Concord at 10:40 a.m. on December 10, 2015.  John Stapler of Concord was located in 10-12 feet of water about 300 yards north of the St. Paul’s School boat house, which is located on the shore of Turkey Pond.

On Wednesday afternoon (December 9), local authorities launched rescue efforts after Stapler's wife called to say that he had gone out kayaking by himself around 10:00 a.m. and did not arrive back home on time. Shortly thereafter, a St. Paul’s School Safety Officer and another school employee located the overturned kayak. Search efforts were made until approximately 5:30 p.m., when they were suspended due to darkness.
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No more Poker Runs

Post  obervantone on Mon May 30, 2016 5:26 pm

Wait....the Chamber of Commerce is promoting this...how can that be It's-not-news-Hawk?

http://www.lakesregionchamber.org/events/details/lake-winnipesaukee-poker-run-22938

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Post  Amy B on Mon May 30, 2016 8:16 pm

Dear Crescent Lake…Cut it out! You’re contributing to my dangerous reputation. There is a person out there who is trying to attribute all NH boating accidents to me and saying it is because of my speed limit. Also, we need to talk to our cousin, Northwood Lake (more on that, next post).
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WOLFEBORO, N.H. (AP) — Two boaters were injured when their 14-foot aluminum craft hit a large wake on Crescent Lake in Wolfeboro, throwing all three passengers into the water.
Marine Patrol officials reported that the accident happened at about 2 p.m. Saturday, when the aluminum boat with a small outboard motor was following a larger boat and hit its wake.
The accident hurtled three boaters from Glastonbury, Conn. — Patrick, Christine and Erin Curry — into the water. Officials said the boat swung around — its motor striking Christine Curry on the leg and Erin Curry on the hip. Both were taken to Huggins Hospital for treatment.
Patrick Curry shut the motor off by pulling out the shut-off lanyard.
Marine patrol urges all boat operators to wear the shut-off lanyard.
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Post  News Hawk on Tue May 31, 2016 4:31 am

obervantone wrote:Wait....the Chamber of Commerce is promoting this...how can that be It's-not-news-Hawk?http://www.lakesregionchamber.org/events/details/lake-winnipesaukee-poker-run-22938


The struck boat was the pace boat!

The following are assorted comments from boating sites about this tragedy:

Five years ago this particular Poker Run paid $100,000—winner take all! http://www.teambajamarine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3815 -- post #10. Describes a 2005 Poker Run crash/fatality.

Here is most of the news and other details:

http://cbs11tv.com/topstories/local_story_245164748.html + video of crash scene

http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/3812776.html

The last URL has a report of speeds over 100-MPH, which is believable considering the damage done to the struck boat: and not much left but a debris field. Another stated that the area was crowded with many other types of uninvolved boats with so much spray generated that a wreck was bound to happen.

The remaining survivor appears to be mending while on oxygen for punctured lungs (by broken ribs).

I doubt that there was any drinking. A 1997 Poker Run crash/swimming fatality ended the really serious drinking at every card handed out—which was at lakeside liquor stops. Canadian Oliver Mastronardi was the culprit. He should be out of jail about now. So should New Hampshire's boat dealer "Danny" Littlefield, come to think of it. (Hit & Run, like too many others). Smith Mountain Lake had a double-fatality in a cruiser last year—also by a boat dealer.

Flash Gordon had twin 1450 hp turbine engines in a 36 foot Eliminator and Nashville Catz had at least twin 1200 hp engines in a 43 foot Nortec (May have been bigger, since the data I found was a year old). Both boats apparently were capable of over 150 mph. I believe that both boats were running surface piercing props.

However I wonder about the speeds under the circumstances; A holiday weekend on a popular lake. Ocean boats belong on oceans, not lakes. This Eliminator is either twice or three times the length of my three lake boats.

The "hot boats" running on some waterways scares the heck out of me--There is a mentality of opening up the boats in areas where it may not be safe. If I see them coming, I get out of the way. There have been tragedies from these boats in the past, and there will be more in the future. If folks race the boats on a sanctioned course, with adequate rescue craft and preparation, that is an entirely different issue than running at these speeds (reports of over 100 mph) on public waterways. I fully realize that some people who own these "hot boats" will disagree with me, think the boats are perfectly safe that they are very capable of driving safely at over 100 mph.

I suspect that both owners knew the risks involved, but that does not make it any less of a tragedy.

Tragedy but at least they hit each other and not some uninvolved bystanders.

http://www.flashgordonproductions.com/

According to the Flash Gordon web site, he charged $500 to take a person in his boat on these poker runs!--$175 for 15 min and $300 for 30 minutes ride in the boat. I would have to assume that he has a CG ticket. Apparently his wife, son in law and daughter were in the boat today and were killed. This is the same "Flash Gordon who drove funny cars in S. Calif. in the 60's.

There is a pattern--and if one goes back over the last year of tragedies there were a number of these fast boats involved--at times professionals, such as the dealer who ran over an anchored boat at night. August 12 th. 4 boats were involved in collisions in a Poker Run in Pittsburg CA. We have had tragedies with deaths by "hot boat" on the Gulf Coast. I am sure that there are some folks who operate the 100 mph+ boats safely and sanely.

However, having this type of accident makes it much more likely that speed restrictions will be placed on boats.

There is a place for speed on the water, but that is a sanctioned race course with safety equipment and personnel. I do have a problem with boats which can go 165 mph on a public waterway (documented speed of Flash Gordon). The entry forum says "cash only" pay at the event--$500 entry fee, plus $50 an extra card.

I must be missing something, but have never seen the sense in Poker Runs. (Much less manufacturing a boat model called "Eliminator".)

Not sure if this is an issue of "Commerce" or Safety:


Poker Runs Ruled Illegal in Texas

Published: Thursday, December 29, 2005
Author: Dan Katz

While not exactly “poker,” the popular “poker run” has become a more and more popular off-shoot of the current poker boom. Unfortunately for participants and the charities the runs usually benefit, the Texas Attorney General has deemed them illegal.

A poker run is a contest in which participants pay an entry fee, like in a poker tournament, and drive around collecting playing cards from different places. The people who finish the run with the best hands win cash prizes. Motorcycles have been the traditional vehicle used for the runs, but any mode of transportation can be used. Most poker runs are used as fundraisers for charity. Motorcycle clubs, as well as police and fire departments, are the most common groups to run the events.

Attorney General, Greg Abbott, said that these poker runs are in violation of Texas gambling law.

The Chamber of Commerce is interested in "Commerce". How many in CoC know of Mastronardi, Rob LaPointe, and our two locals who committed drunken manslaughter on lakes? (When their boats should have been on the ocean?)

The Chamber of Commerce' stake in boating safety is nowhere-near what we who live on Lake Winnipesaukee have seen. Their empathy towards that endangered sailboat and passengers will only rate a ho-hum when there's money to be made.

Wolfeboro's ever-crowded downtown speed limit is 30-MPH. Let's raise it to 50 and see what happens!

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Re: I see things have been busy since last I were here

Post  Amy B on Tue May 31, 2016 11:05 am

Northwood Lake Boating Accident:

Dear Northwood Lake;
  I need your help. You see there is this guy with a rather primitive understanding of even the basic tenets of statistical analysis and statistical significance who is using data from you, Northwood Lake, to sully the reputation of me, Winni. Could you please try to more closely monitor the safety of those people plying your waters so that tragic accidents like these won't happen. Perhaps even slower speeds on your waters would be a possible solution? Hoping you are having a peaceful and calm season.

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P.S. I'll be in touch with your neighbor Pleasant Lake in Northwood. There were some problems there as well.
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BRENTWOOD — A jury convicted a Hooksett man of two counts of negligent homicide for causing a passenger to fall out of his boat and die on Northwood Lake last July after a day of drinking with friends.

Eric Cable was ordered held without bail Thursday afternoon after a Rockingham County jury agreed he was intoxicated and negligently piloted his boat July 14, 2012, causing the death of Brendan Yerry, 28, of Hudson.

The announcement of the verdict prompted crying in the court gallery from both Yerry’s and Cable’s families in Rockingham County Superior Court.

Jurors returned with their decision around 4:20 p.m. and deliberated for roughly three hours.

Prosecutors and the defense sparred during the weeklong trial about whether there was enough proof that Cable, 34, was legally intoxicated.

Cable, who took the stand in his own defense, had started drinking on the morning of the incident and continued imbibing throughout the day while ferrying a group of friends to a sandbar on the lake, according to prosecutors.

“What he did was not acceptable, not even close,” Assistant County Attorney Jerome Blanchard. “It was a drunk day on the water.”

Blanchard argued that Cable’s actions were illegal from the outset because he was operating the boat without a license, and had no boater training.

Prosecutors said Yerry was illegally seated at the front of the 18-foot Crestliner when Cable turned the boat and collided with a wake. Yerry fell overboard and was struck by the boat’s drive and propeller.

He also dismissed suggestions by the defense that Cable bore no responsibility for where Yerry was seated.

Defense lawyer Peter Anderson argued that prosecutors lacked a conclusive blood-alcohol test near the time of the crash that proved his client was intoxicated.

“What did the state offer to you as evidence other than alcohol consumption (to prove) that Eric acted negligently and actually caused Brendan Yerry’s death?” he said.

Jurors heard that blood alcohol tests taken from Cable showed his blood-alcohol level at .04 and .03 about six hours after the incident.

A state expert testified that Cable had to have been intoxicated when Yerry fell from the boat.

Judge Marguerite Wageling agreed to revoke Cable’s bail pending his sentencing hearing.

Cable faces up to 7½ to 15 years in state prison for the conviction of negligent homicide/driving while intoxicated.
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Post  obervantone on Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:11 am

I see you went back to 2014 for the last one, that means you only have 93 to go!

Speed limits imposed...boating accidents up....the numbers speak for themselves no matter how hard you try to spin it.

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Post  Amy B on Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:54 am

Pleasant Lake Accident

  Dear Pleasant Lake,
     I have already contacted your neighbor, Northwood Lake, about an accident on his lake. You see, the problem is that there is this guy out there who uses ALL of NH boating accident statistics for all the near 1,000 bodies of water and the ocean and he tries to convince the public that this proves I am less safe since the speed limits were imposed. Yes, I know it is totally absurd to think statistics for all of NH could somehow be extrapolated to me. In any case, do your best to keep accidents like the one listed below from happening. BTW it is not just you. I have to send a letter off to Uncle Salty who spends the season between Portsmouth and Hampton. There have been a few accidents there that this same guy uses to add to his "data". And while we're on the topic there's one more issue that I find to be a bit odd. This same guy keeps pointing to a “study” from a few years back where the MP measured speeds on me and concluded speed was not a problem. Well whoever hasn't gone slower in the presence of a police officer. I suspect everyone. I mean duh. Oh yeah, “they’re the experts” he says of the MP except that the late Dave Barrett was into the high speed things as well. Talk about the fox guarding the henhouse!

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NORTHWOOD — N.H. State Police-Marine Patrol reported Monday night that earlier that afternoon a father from New York and his two children, ages 3 and 5, escaped serious injury after a boating accident on Pleasant Lake.
Authorities say Craig Jankowski, 41, of New Paltz, N.Y., was on a 12-foot Starcraft aluminum boat with his two children, a son and a daughter, ages 5 and 3. Jankowski throttled up the 15 horsepower motor getting the boat on plane.
Jankowski was using the tiller to turn to port when he shifted his weight causing the boat to list heavily and ejecting him from the port side of the craft, authorities report.
The boat began to circle and struck Jankowski causing propeller abrasions and injury to his back and left shoulder. The craft came to rest and Jankowski saw his son's life jacket at the stern of the boat.
Authorities say Jankowski then lifted the outboard motor bringing his son to the surface, his life jacket caught around the lower unit. Jankowski removed his son from the life jacket to free him, his actions causing the boat to take on water at the stern and begin to sink.
With Jankowski's son free, he swam to the front of the craft and removed his daughter from the sinking boat.
Good Samaritans in a pontoon boat transported Jankowski and his two children to the shore, where emergency personnel were waiting. Jankowski's son sustained minor abrasions and has been admitted overnight for observation.
Investigation has revealed the outboard motor attached to the boat was never intended for a craft of this size.
Both children were wearing their life jackets at the time of the accident.
The accident remains under investigation.
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Post  obervantone on Wed Jun 01, 2016 11:45 am

2012 on that one, now only 132 to go.

Let's just have you do them all shall we?

In the past 5 years since the implementation of speed limits there have been 213 reportable boating accidents, none of which you are apparently claiming happened on the largest body of water in the state, larger than even the state's coastal waters and that is home to the vast majority of boats.

You have accounted for 5. Only 208 to go.

Can't wait for the next installment.

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