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Post  WHL Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:31 pm

5 Reasons Hillary Won't Run

By Tom Bevan - June 17, 2014



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Hillary Clinton's minions are hard at work assembling a political machine and fine tuning it for another go at the White House. Mrs. Clinton is doing her part preparing for a run as well, churning out a bland memoir about the "hard choices" she faced as secretary of state and coyly positioning herself (again) as the inevitable nominee of the party. But after the troubled beginning to her book tour, we're beginning to see the reasons why Hillary may eventually decide to pull the plug on a 2016 presidential run. Here are five:
1) She's just not that good at campaigning. If the last two gaffe-prone weeks have reminded us of anything about Hillary, it’s that she’s a mediocre politician at best. Her shortcomings are significant: she can be stiff and wooden in public; she lacks the aura of a natural politician; she’s not a great public speaker, and she can come across as politically flat-footed and tone deaf -- as she did with her “dead broke” response to a rather benign question about relating to the financial challenges of the average voter. People still seem to believe that the Clinton name is synonymous with political skill, but that assumption is only half-true: If Hillary possessed even half of Bill’s political talent and acumen, she wouldn’t have lost to Barack Obama in 2008.

2) The “fire in the belly”question. Certainly, Mrs. Clinton shares her husband’s seemingly limitless ambition. It’s been the driving force behind their existence as individuals and as a couple for more than four decades. But I’m with Mike McCurry on this one: Hillary Rodham Clinton is going to be 67 years old on October 26. Does she really want to spend her golden years working 16 hours a day shaking hands at high school gyms in Dubuque, Iowa, and rubbing elbows at diners in Manchester, New Hampshire? Especially when she can burnish her legacy with meaningful work through the Clinton Global Foundation -- while making millions a year at $200,000 a pop for 45-minute speeches -- and spend time with her soon-to-be born grandchild.
3) It ain’t gonna be a coronation. HRC must have been taken aback last week when two members of the traveling sisterhood – Diane Sawyer of ABC News and Terry Gross of NPR – actually pressed her with uncomfortable questions about Benghazi and gay marriage, respectively. Hillary didn’t respond well in either situation, and the ensuing coverage was instructive. If she can’t count on favorable press coverage during the choreographed rollout of a self-reverential memoir, what does that tell us about how she’d do in debates against a determined opponent? And does Clinton really want to face the scrutiny, not to mention the slings and arrows, that come with any campaign?
4) Obama is leaving a mess. President Obama’s second term is complicating matters significantly for Hillary. His foreign policy, which Clinton helped direct for four years – is adrift. The situation has unraveled dangerously in Syria and now Iraq. The infamous “reset” with Russia is a joke. Obama’s job approval rating is on the slide, and not only on foreign policy. He’s struggling to stay relevant in Washington or to move any sort of domestic agenda forward, which will be made even more difficult if Republicans take the Senate in November. It’s hard to see how any of these dynamics change for the better in the next two years -- and they may get worse. Hillary will not want to be seen as running for Obama’s third term, yet she won’t be able to distance herself too far from his record. That will be a tough needle to thread politically (see point #1).
5) The country wants real change. America was mesmerized by Obama’s call for change in 2008. It was one of the narratives that propelled him over Hillary in the first place. Eight years later, Obama has failed to deliver much of what he promised on uniting the country and changing business as usual in Washington. As a result an even stronger populist, anti-establishment, anti-incumbent fervor is coursing through the electorate. That does not bode well for Hillary Clinton, who embodies the elite establishment -- and the past. If the famed Clinton political acumen still exists in that family, Hillary will figure this out and take a pass on 2016.

Tom Bevan is the co-founder and Executive Editor of RealClearPolitics and the co-author


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Post  News Buzzard Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:40 pm

Hillary is going to run and she is going to win big !
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Post  WHL Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:57 pm

IF she doesn't, who would you like?
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Post  News Buzzard Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:16 pm

WHL wrote:IF she doesn't, who would you like?

She's running, but the Democrats have plenty of qualified candidates if she doesn't. My favorite guy is Bernie Sanders. (not a Democrat)
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Post  WHL Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:40 pm

But more liberal than most Dems.
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Post  News Buzzard Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:48 pm

WHL wrote:But more liberal than most Dems.

That's very true. I think a very strong centrist candidate would be Governor Andrew Cuomo of New York, but he may get some blowback from the liberal base. A lot of people in NY think he is a DINO, but I think he made some very difficult, but fair, decisions to get NY through the recession.
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Post  WHL Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:03 pm

I have to agree that most Dems wouldn't like him-not liberal enough for them.
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Post  News Pigeon Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:43 pm

News Buzzard wrote:
WHL wrote:IF she doesn't, who would you like?

She's running, but the Democrats have plenty of qualified candidates if she doesn't. My favorite guy is Bernie Sanders. (not a Democrat)

I like Bernie a lot.....Elizabeth Warren would be a great candidate in a few years.
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Post  News Buzzard Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:56 pm

News Pigeon wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:
WHL wrote:IF she doesn't, who would you like?

She's running, but the Democrats have plenty of qualified candidates if she doesn't. My favorite guy is Bernie Sanders. (not a Democrat)

I like Bernie a lot.....Elizabeth Warren would be a great candidate in a few years.

I agree.
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Post  WHL Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:22 am

How can you like her, she is a proven liar?
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Post  News Pigeon Wed Jun 18, 2014 7:27 am

WHL wrote:How can you like her, she is a proven liar?

How so? What lie would that be?


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Post  red_hill Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:32 am

News Buzzard wrote:
WHL wrote:IF she doesn't, who would you like?

She's running, but the Democrats have plenty of qualified candidates if she doesn't. My favorite guy is Bernie Sanders. (not a Democrat)

I hear this nitwit on Ed Schulz's show... he makes Marx look like a R!

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Post  News Buzzard Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:17 am

Bernie Sanders has been in the Congress since 1991 and is now the Chairman of the Veteran's Affairs Committee. He recently wrote legislation with John McCain to solve the veteran's problems with health care. That legislation passed the Senate, almost unanimously.
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Post  News Pigeon Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:26 am

News Pigeon wrote:
WHL wrote:How can you like her, she is a proven liar?

How so? What lie would that be?

Well???
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Post  News Pigeon Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:28 am

red_hill wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:
WHL wrote:IF she doesn't, who would you like?

She's running, but the Democrats have plenty of qualified candidates if she doesn't. My favorite guy is Bernie Sanders. (not a Democrat)

I hear this nitwit on Ed Schulz's show... he makes Marx look like a R!

Why, in your opinion, is he a "nitwit"?
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Post  WHL Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:30 pm

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Post  News Pigeon Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:38 pm

Really....this is what you claim disqualifies her??! If "fudging" the facts in our youth were a disqualifier, nobody could run for the position...look how many times you "fudge" the facts & I doubt you're in your youth.
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Post  News Hawk Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:40 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Hillary is going to run and she is going to win big !

Your link?

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Post  News Hawk Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:25 am

WHL wrote:How can you like her, she is a proven liar?

The woman without being elected to anything somehow managed to access the FBI files of 900 potential political enemies.

The woman who put herself in charge of Clinton's war room.

The woman who masterminded the campaign to disparage Bill Clinton's victims as "sluts and nuts" to the entire world.

The woman who is a demonstrated serial liar.

The woman who behaved unethically as an attorney of a Senate Committee motivated by rank personal and ideological ambition to destroy the other team.

The woman who was a frank admirer of Saul Alinsky and his determination to destroy opposition by any means.

The woman who didn't move heaven and earth to rescue all 41 fellow Americans under siege at Benghazi.

The woman who was the most divisive figure in America until Barack Obama won the prize.

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Post  WHL Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:21 am

News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:Hillary is going to run and she is going to win big !

Your link?

scratch


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 lol!  lol!  lol!   Good one, NH.
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Post  News Hawk Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:22 pm

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Post  WHL Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:27 am

Another funny one!   Laughing  Laughing
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Post  red_hill Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:57 pm

News Pigeon wrote:
red_hill wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:
WHL wrote:IF she doesn't, who would you like?

She's running, but the Democrats have plenty of qualified candidates if she doesn't. My favorite guy is Bernie Sanders. (not a Democrat)

I hear this nitwit on Ed Schulz's show... he makes Marx look like a R!

Why, in your opinion, is he a "nitwit"?

Because he is a socialist.

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Post  WHL Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:23 pm

Good answer, Red!  Simple as that!
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Post  Outerlimits Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:36 am

Who said it?
 
1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."
A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
 
2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared prosperity."
A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
 
3) "(We).....can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."
A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Joseph Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
 
4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground."A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong II
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
 
5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."
A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
 
6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."
A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. Barack Obama
E. None of the above
 
 
Answers
 
(1) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
(2) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
(3) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(4) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(5) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(6) E. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005
 
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