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Post  WHL Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:20 pm

Did anyone read the letter to the editor in the GSN from Mike Appe? I guess he's not too happy with the tax situation, huh? He was going to leave the town 6 million dollars, but now that money is moving out of town with him.
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Post  Achigan Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:36 pm

WHL wrote:Did anyone read the letter to the editor in the GSN from Mike Appe? I guess he's not too happy with the tax situation, huh? He was going to leave the town 6 million dollars, but now that money is moving out of town with him.
I would like to read the article, can you post it. I don't get the GSN where I live.
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Post  WHL Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:49 pm

No, I am not that talented. I took a screen shot of it and tried to load it here but it says: "Could not upload file : exceeded total storage space. (Free space : 351)". So that ends it for me. I had that problem before trying to post on here.
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Post  Achigan Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:51 pm

WHL wrote:No, I am not that talented. I took a screen shot of it and tried to load it here but it says: "Could not upload file : exceeded total storage space. (Free space : 351)". So that ends it for me. I had that problem before trying to post on here.
Thanks for trying.
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Post  Matzoh Heppelwhite. Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:35 pm

Granite State News, October 17, 2013
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Post  News Hawk Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:31 am

That number of abatements sounds high.

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WHL wrote:"...He was going to leave the town 6 million dollars, but now that money is moving out of town with him..."  
So he sez.

Well, at least there are no starving lawyers locally.

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Post  WHL Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:16 am

He is moving, so I have no doubt that he means what he says. It's a shame we have to waste money like that on legal fees. When questioned by the owners, couldn't Cross or the town see that they were wrong?

Thanks Matzoh for posting that. Can you tell me what I am doing wrong? How do you do that without it telling you it exceeds the space allowed?
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Post  Matzoh Heppelwhite. Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:57 am

WHL wrote:He is moving, so I have no doubt that he means what he says.  It's a shame we have to waste money like that on legal fees.  When questioned by the owners, couldn't Cross or the town see that they were wrong?

Thanks Matzoh for posting that.  Can you tell me what I am doing wrong?   How do you do that without it telling you it exceeds the space allowed?
It's a combination of magic & Photobucket.
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Post  WHL Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:01 am

OH, so going to photobucket and all makes it a big process, right? I mean it is time consuming?
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Post  Achigan Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:04 am

Matzoh Heppelwhite. wrote:
WHL wrote:He is moving, so I have no doubt that he means what he says.  It's a shame we have to waste money like that on legal fees.  When questioned by the owners, couldn't Cross or the town see that they were wrong?

Thanks Matzoh for posting that.  Can you tell me what I am doing wrong?   How do you do that without it telling you it exceeds the space allowed?
It's a combination of magic & Photobucket.
That is real creative, thank you for doing it.

I'll bet that somebody will take the town to task before this is over. It appears to be a combination of the town attorney and the assessment agency that cost Wolfeboro so much money.
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Post  Matzoh Heppelwhite. Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:17 am

WHL wrote:OH, so going to photobucket and all makes it a big process, right?  I mean it is time consuming?
I like Photobucket.
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Post  fshnski Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:23 am

Thanks for taking the time to post the article Matzoh.

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Post  News Hawk Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:37 am

Achigan wrote:"...I'll bet that somebody will take the town to task before this is over.  It appears to be a combination of the town attorney and the assessment agency that cost Wolfeboro so much money..."
Because attorneys "fixed" this, I suspect there's no point in suing the assessors.

While the Town attorney continues to waffle on every issue, I'm surprised he's still on retainer.

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Post  WHL Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:15 am

Thanks for posting, Matzoh.
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Post  WHL Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:15 am

Can anyone tell us why the budget committee isn't on top of this type of thing?
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Post  fshnski Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:20 am

This is what happens with the spend, spend, spend mentality of the left. They view everything as an opportunity for more taxes.

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Post  WHL Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:53 am

fshnski wrote:This is what happens with the spend, spend, spend mentality of the left. They view everything as an opportunity for more taxes.
You are so right.
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Post  fshnski Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:29 am

Just imagine what our town could have done with that 6 million dollars.

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Post  WHL Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:44 pm

Yes, even if they designated where it would go, it would still help. I think we will see more and more people moving out as the taxes continue to go crazy. Not just in Wolfeboro but everywhere. And pretty soon all towns are Detroit.
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Post  Achigan Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:16 pm

Wolfeboro has a low tax rate compared to other towns & cities of NH.

Here is the list:

Acworth 21.66
Albany 10.97
Alexandria 19.96
Allenstown 24.21
Alstead 22.46
Alton 13.68
Amherst 26.28
Andover 18.30
Antrim 23.67
Ashland 21.98
Atkinson 18.80
Auburn 19.38
Barnstead 23.56
Barrington 21.46
Bartlett 10.33
Bath 18.42
Bean's Purchase 0.0
Bedford 20.32
Belmont 21.70
Bennington 24.90
Benton 15.85
Berlin 32.31
Bethlehem 28.61
Boscawen 21.50
Bow 29.70
Bradford 22.69
Brentwood 23.24
Bridgewater 9.75
Bristol 18.95
Brookfield 17.14
Brookline 24.50
Campton 19.52
Canaan 23.88
Candia 19.97
Canterbury 25.83
Carroll 19.50
Center Harbor 12.97
Charlestown 29.92
Chatham 11.72
Chester 23.85
Chesterfield 16.72
Chichester 20.16
Claremont 34.37
Clarksville 15.20
Colebrook 21.31
Columbia 18.27
Concord 24.37
Conway 17.61
Cornish 19.70
Croydon 12.98
Dalton 19.75
Danbury 23.22
Danville 27.18
Deerfield 21.91
Deering 25.32
Derry 30.48
Dix Grant 0.0
Dorchester 19.40
Dover 25.52
Dublin 22.15
Dummer 16.85
Dunbarton 21.37
Durham 28.75
East Kingston 23.56
Easton 10.75
Eaton 11.64
Effingham 17.76
Ellsworth 13.94
Enfield 20.30
Epping 24.27
Epsom 20.50
Errol 11.14
Erving's Grant 0.0
Exeter 25.92
Farmington 21.00
Fitzwilliam 29.31
Francestown 21.61
Franconia 15.92
Franklin 22.22
Freedom 12.43
Fremont 27.80
Gilford 18.30
Gilmanton 23.42
Gilsum 25.94
Goffstown 25.18
Gorham 30.33
Goshen 21.76
Grafton 20.38
Grantham 20.17
Greenfield 22.11
Greenland 14.13
Green's Grant 7.11
Greenville 19.85
Groton 11.23
Hadley's Purchase 0.0
Hale's Location 4.55
Hampstead 21.94
Hampton 17.77
Hampton Falls 19.98
Hancock 20.80
Hanover 17.40
Harrisville 14.75
Hart's Location 2.88
Haverhill 24.49
Hebron 7.93
Henniker 28.61
Hill 18.95
Hillsborough 28.40
Hinsdale 24.79
Holderness 13.50
Hollis 21.23
Hooksett 22.32
Hopkinton 28.19
Hudson 19.95
Jackson 10.13
Jaffrey 27.31
Jefferson 19.75
Keene 31.40
Kensington 20.80
Kilkenny 0.00
Kingston 21.64
Laconia 21.00
Lancaster 20.73
Landaff 19.50
Langdon 25.23
Lebanon 24.19
Lee 29.94
Lempster 19.85
Lincoln 12.73
Lisbon 32.41
Litchfield 19.81
Littleton 21.70
Londonderry 20.50
Loudon 20.54
Low and Burbank Gr 0.00
Lyman 19.30
Lyme 21.90
Lyndeborough 23.50
Madbury 24.52
Madison 15.40
Manchester 22.18
Marlborough 25.11
Marlow 25.66
Martin's Location 0.00
Mason 24.75
Meredith 12.62
Merrimack 23.21
Middleton 24.60
Milan 19.16
Milford 25.55
Millsfield 0.00
Milton 24.70
Monroe 11.33
Mont Vernon 28.54
Moultonborough 8.56
Nashua 21.49
Nelson 19.63
New Boston 23.03
New Castle 6.39
New Durham 22.96
New Hampton 15.87
New Ipswich 20.62
New London 15.03
Newbury 14.61
Newfields 23.02
Newington 8.95
Newmarket 23.67
Newport 29.69
Newton 23.91
North Hampton 16.05
Northfield 25.96
Northumberland 28.32
Northwood 23.20
Nottingham 20.42
Odell 0.00
Orange 19.77
Orford 24.83
Ossipee 17.08
Pelham 24.40
Pembroke 26.84
Penacook 27.52
Peterborough 28.39
Piermont 22.16
Pinkham's Grant 7.24
Pittsburg 14.15
Pittsfield 30.44
Plainfield 24.45
Plaistow 24.71
Plymouth 22.01
Portsmouth 17.55
Randolph 15.98
Raymond 23.22
Richmond 24.31
Rindge 24.63
Rochester 25.68
Rollinsford 26.94
Roxbury 22.85
Rumney 19.74
Rye 11.22
Salem 20.58
Salisbury 24.15
Sanbornton 20.33
Sandown 20.78
Sandwich 11.51
Sargent's Purchase 0.00
Seabrook 14.51
Second College Grant 0.00
Sharon 19.03
Shelburne 15.32
Somersworth 28.94
South Hampton 14.75
Springfield 19.88
Stark 17.78
Stewartstown 19.55
Stoddard 14.45
Strafford 22.38
Stratford 23.16
Stratham 19.31
Success 0.00
Sugar Hill 19.45
Sullivan 26.75
Sunapee 14.62
Surry 18.93
Sutton 21.57
Swanzey 23.96
Tamworth 19.00
Temple 23.34
Thom. and Mes. 1.89
Thornton 18.32
Tilton 18.25
Troy 26.77
Tuftonboro 9.14
Unity 21.95
Wakefield 11.95
Walpole 21.18
Warner 25.24
Warren 15.98
Washington 15.60
Waterville Valley 12.60
Weare 20.77
Webster 18.37
Wentworth 20.62
Wentworth Location 15.92
Westmoreland 21.13
Whitefield 20.31
Wilmot 20.29
Wilton 25.37
Winchester 27.92
Windham 23.05
Windsor 13.34
Wolfeboro 12.64
Woodstock 17.88
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Post  Matzoh Heppelwhite. Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:17 pm

WHL wrote:Yes, even if they designated where it would go, it would still help.  I think we will see more and more people moving out as the taxes continue to go crazy.  Not just in Wolfeboro but everywhere.  And pretty soon all towns are Detroit.
Detroit is a city, not a town.
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Post  fshnski Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:23 pm

I believe the concern is evaluation and not the rate.

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Post  News Hawk Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:25 pm

Matzoh Heppelwhite. wrote:
WHL wrote:Yes, even if they designated where it would go, it would still help.  I think we will see more and more people moving out as the taxes continue to go crazy.  Not just in Wolfeboro but everywhere.  And pretty soon all towns are Detroit.
Detroit is a city, not a town.
Give it time.

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Post  WHL Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:44 pm

News Hawk wrote:
Matzoh Heppelwhite. wrote:
WHL wrote:Yes, even if they designated where it would go, it would still help.  I think we will see more and more people moving out as the taxes continue to go crazy.  Not just in Wolfeboro but everywhere.  And pretty soon all towns are Detroit.
Detroit is a city, not a town.
Give it time.

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Besides, it depends on the value of the property. Not too long ago Wolfeboro's rate was in the teens, maybe higher, but they made the prices of the homes higher and the rate went down. Then year by year, the rate creeps up until they revaluate again and then the price per thousand goes down. So it really doesn't mean much. What counts is how valuable the property is in the town and how much the towns spend.
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Post  Achigan Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:00 pm

WHL wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
Matzoh Heppelwhite. wrote:
WHL wrote:Yes, even if they designated where it would go, it would still help.  I think we will see more and more people moving out as the taxes continue to go crazy.  Not just in Wolfeboro but everywhere.  And pretty soon all towns are Detroit.
Detroit is a city, not a town.
Give it time.

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Besides, it depends on the value of the property. Not too long ago Wolfeboro's rate was in the teens, maybe higher, but they made the prices of the homes higher and the rate went down. Then year by year, the rate creeps up until they revaluate again and then the price per thousand goes down. So it really doesn't mean much. What counts is how valuable the property is in the town and how much the towns spend.
IMO Wolfeboro does a pretty good job of keeping the taxes down and not over evaluating property. It's too bad that this recent assessment problem happened but I think the town has learned a lesson in all this.
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