Re: Obamacare more unpopular than ever

News Hawk Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:08 am

News Buzzard wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:The Arizona House approved a budget that includes Medicaid expansion for Obamacare:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20130613house-approves-medicaid-expansion-billion-budget.html?nclick_check=1
Seven RINOs, one Brewer.

NSA got the Marxists "enough" votes—just like the "selective" fraud of the 2012 national election.

Jimmy Olsen, cub reporter, is now trying his hand at editing!

When jobs and corporations are fleeing US restrictions to manufacture overseas, we can't call ourselves "the-last-industrialized-nation-without-ObamaCare".

BTW 1:

Shocked

Gallup shows "W" more popular than the _Resident in the White House.

(Wherever Air Force 1 might be carrying "The Won" at the moment).

Surprised

BTW II:

Isn't BigE missing the News Crows' posts?

...Better hurry back...Tennessee's own Stalin awaits your Group-Think-crafted talking points from 2000 miles away—and in between...

Outerlimits Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:04 am

News Buzzard wrote:The Arizona House approved a budget that includes Medicaid expansion for Obamacare:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20130613house-approves-medicaid-expansion-billion-budget.html?nclick_check=1

Why shouldn’t states get as much money back from the Feds as they can? It was not the Fed’s money to begin with they took it from the States. The Federal Government does not create wealth, they confiscate it.

Smaller government would keep the money in the pockets of those who earned it. The Dems and RINOs have created the biggest middleman of all time. Our government would work a lot better if it was local.

News Buzzard Fri Jun 14, 2013 10:25 am

I hope the New Hampshire statehouse figures out that the best thing to do is take the Medicaid expansion. The United States is one of the lowest taxed countries in the world, so your "confiscation" theory falls on deaf ears. It is the "supply side, trickle down" theory that has been ruining this country over the past 30 years! The only thing "supply side" does is destroy the middle class, and I think the middle class is just starting to figure that out!

Outerlimits Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:31 am

News Buzzard wrote:I hope the New Hampshire statehouse figures out that the best thing to do is take the Medicaid expansion. The United States is one of the lowest taxed countries in the world, so your "confiscation" theory falls on deaf ears. It is the "supply side, trickle down" theory that has been ruining this country over the past 30 years! The only thing "supply side" does is destroy the middle class, and I think the middle class is just starting to figure that out!

It is plundering and pillaging any way you cut it. When you forcefully take the fruits of someone’s labor and give it to another (who didn’t work for it), it is confiscation. Just because another entity takes more, doesn’t change a damn thing.

So you believe we should be more like Scandinavia. When News Hawk says you have socialist leanings…why don’t you just admit it?

I get to keep roughly 50% of what I earn. Pardon me if I don’t respect your opinion when you say the so called “rich” need to pay their fair share. Not one of you people calling for higher taxes on the rich can explain how somebody’s fair share can equal ZERO.

It is people like you that don’t understand how things work that are screwing up this country.

We have the highest corporate tax on the planet.

Basic economics here…Corporations don’t pay taxes, they pass them off to the consumers. So every time your side says:

“we need to tax corporations more,”
or
“we need to close corporate loopholes” (AKA tax laws)

You are calling for higher prices and fewer jobs. Why is this so hard for liberals to understand this?

News Pigeon Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:46 am

Outerlimits wrote:
We have the highest corporate tax on the planet.

Basic economics here…Corporations don’t pay taxes, they pass them off to the consumers. So every time your side says:

“we need to tax corporations more,”
or
“we need to close corporate loopholes” (AKA tax laws)

You are calling for higher prices and fewer jobs. Why is this so hard for liberals to understand this?

Huh?? First you say we have the highest corp taxes on planet, then you say corps don't pay taxes..which is it?
And....corporate taxes have never stopped a corp from hiring more workers, HINT: basic economics= supply & demand
Higher prices are based on what the "market" will bear.

Outerlimits Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:16 pm

You need to work on your reading comprehension.

Corporations don’t PAY taxes, they PASS them off to the consumer. When the TAXES are passed on to the CONSUMER in the form of higher prices, at a certain point, demand for the product will drop. When demand drops, corporation cut production (layoff workers) and/or move to an envirement with lower costs of doing business.

This is really not that hard to understand.

I know you think the company should just make less money and the shareholders/CEOs should take the hit. It does not work that way.

**WHL** Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:37 pm

The only deaf ears around here, NB are your's and NP's. Outer is right, you are wrong.

News Buzzard Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:50 pm

People can say anything they want on these forums, without needing to have an ounce of truth in their statement. This has been the Republican game plan for years, keep bashing something or someone, and hope that eventually people will unwittingly believe you.

FACT: This is one of the lowest taxed countries in the world!

FACT: The majority of wealth in this country is in the hands of a small minority!

FACT: The income disparity between the rich and the middle class has been widening for years.

OPINION: Supply side economics (low taxes) hasn't worked in 30 years. The only direction wealth trickles is north, but we shouldn't let the facts get in our way. The middle class has taken a real beating over the last 6 years, and the Republicans are vainly trying to direct their anger to the Black guy in the White House. See the election results of 2012 to figure how well that worked!! So now the Republicans go into sore loser mode and manufacture as many scandals as they can, and they put their best career criminal, Darrell Issa, on the case. Rolling Eyes

Outerlimits Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:51 pm

Obamacare more unpopular than ever - Page 2 Lunatic-progressives-losing-debate-use-race-card

Yeah,

Lets’ move away from the free market system and move towards the economic models of socialist countries. What could go wrong? After all those countries do have higher personal tax rates and we need to feed the government so they can redistribute wealth to the "worthy people".

You didn’t make that… lol!

News Buzzard Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:57 pm

I would be just happy enough to go back to the Clinton tax rates, when we had a surplus, and the economy was humming. There is a great deal of space between us and the European socialism model, and the European austerity strategy is a disaster! That's really funny, my guy won, and yet I'm losing the argument? scratch

**WHL** Fri Jun 14, 2013 6:20 pm

News Buzzard wrote:People can say anything they want on these forums, without needing to have an ounce of truth in their statement. This has been the Republican game plan for years, keep bashing something or someone, and hope that eventually people will unwittingly believe you.

I give up. I can't get my cursor out of this box, so will have to type in it.

Anyway, NB you just wrote about Democrats and yourself. You say anything you want on here whether it has an ounce of truth or not, so I wouldn't be so quick to criticize others. You follow the Democrats talking points to a tee.

News Pigeon Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:35 pm

Outerlimits wrote:You need to work on your reading comprehension.

Corporations don’t PAY taxes, they PASS them off to the consumer. When the TAXES are passed on to the CONSUMER in the form of higher prices, at a certain point, demand for the product will drop. When demand drops, corporation cut production (layoff workers) and/or move to an envirement with lower costs of doing business.

This is really not that hard to understand.

I know you think the company should just make less money and the shareholders/CEOs should take the hit. It does not work that way.
And YOU need to work on basic economics! If your "theory" were true, than why are we supplementing the oil-corps, only to keep paying higher gas prices? Corps don't pay higher taxes because they shelter their profits in off-shore accts...that has hurt our country to the tune of $ 166 billion, as of last report. It's not a lack of demand, it's a lack of national wealth being circulated in this country.And you don't have a clue what I think about co's/CEO's/ shareholders...so I'll ask you to refrain from putting your opinion forward as mine....thank you.

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