Obama's War on Medicare...

Excerpted:

"...Obama tried to remedy this by cutting payments by a total $200 billion over the next decade to help pay for ObamaCare (while providing "bonus" payments to plans that score high on a quality rating). An official analysis from Medicare's actuary concluded, however, that such cuts would drive millions of seniors out of their Advantage plans and back into the government-run program.

Recognizing political risks of these payment cuts, the administration put them off until after the presidential elections, shoveling $8 billion into a bogus "demonstration project" that offset almost all the scheduled Medicare Advantage cuts in 2012..."

http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/030414-691862-obama-war-on-private-medicare-advantage-drug-benefit-plans.htm




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I got an email which was very scary if true. It listed the things under Medicare that won't be covered etc. If you are 75 you won't be covered if you have cancer. You have to go to end of life seminars. Lovely---- Just two of the things it mentioned.

Thought you might find this of interest...
Subject: Obama Care at age 76

This is the second Judge to have read the Obama Care document and made
comments.

Show this to everyone nearing the ripe old age of 76. These are just a few
of the things that we Seniors are going to have to deal with starting in
2014.

Even far left Democrats will not like these.

Your hospital Medicare admittance has just changed under Obama Care. You
must be admitted by your primary Physician in order for Medicare to pay for
it! If you are admitted by an emergency room doctor it is treated as
outpatient care where hospital costs are not covered. This is only the tip
of the iceberg for Obama Care. Just wait to see what happens in this year
and 2014!

YOU ARE NOT GOING TO LIKE THIS... At age 76 when you most need it most, you
are not eligible for cancer treatment * see page 272.

Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number THE CARE BILL HB 3200 JUDGE KITHIL IS
THE 2ND OFFICIAL WHO HAS OUTLINED THESE PARTS OF THE CARE BILL.
Judge Kithil of Marble Falls , TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of
HB3200 Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S.
residents, even if they are here illegally.
** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an
individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic
fund transfers from those accounts.
** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for
all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as
the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be
treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of
specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. This is what they
do in Sweden too. I know because Alf's daughter Ann is an OBGYN, and her
husband, Thorsten, is a surgeon.........
** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the
patient's age.
** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital
expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning
consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an
"end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..)
** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write
an end-of-life order.

Don't forget your pets. The bill from a Veterinarian also includes payments to ObamaCare.




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The BS never stops, does it WHL? Where is the link?

I don't know. I wish you would find out if it is true, NB. The guy posted numbers from Obamacare. But I have heard about the admittance into hospitals. If your primary dr doesn't admit you, Medicare won't pay.

WHL wrote:I don't know.  I wish you would find out if it is true, NB.  The guy posted numbers from Obamacare.  But I have heard about the admittance into hospitals.  If your primary dr doesn't admit you, Medicare won't pay.

Does that make any sense? What if you get sick in Florida?

Or what if it is a weekend and your doctor isn't around? A lot of Obamacare doesn't make sense.

News Buzzard wrote:

WHL wrote:I don't know.  I wish you would find out if it is true, NB.  The guy posted numbers from Obamacare.  But I have heard about the admittance into hospitals.  If your primary dr doesn't admit you, Medicare won't pay.

Does that make any sense? What if you get sick in Florida?

I made the mistake of having Concord Hospital do a regularly-performed procedure.

Medicare wouldn't pay about 25% of the bill because I was an "out of state" patient.



That is what is meant by Medicare (and ObamaCare) critics "wanting portability".




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A regularly performed procedure doesn't sound like an emergency, so it warrants some pre-admission calls to find out if it's covered. You pretty much have to do that with all insurance companies, but if you're out of state and have a heart attack am I to understand that the treatment, or part of it, wouldn't be covered? It doesn't make any sense.

The way I understand it is if you have a heart attack and you go to the emergency room, the emergency room will be covered. However, the emergency room MUST get your primary care doctor to admit you. so what if it is a weekend and they can't find your doctor? I think they haven' thought some of these things through.

News Buzzard wrote:A regularly performed procedure doesn't sound like an emergency, so it warrants some pre-admission calls to find out if it's covered. You pretty much have to do that with all insurance companies, but if you're out of state and have a heart attack am I to understand that the treatment, or part of it, wouldn't be covered? It doesn't make any sense.

This "regularly-performed procedure" was for cancer—I considered it an emergency—with the alternative being a drive back to Florida!

WHL wrote:The way I understand it is if you have a heart attack and you go to the emergency room, the emergency room will be covered.  However, the emergency room MUST get your primary care doctor to admit you.  so what if it is a weekend and they can't find your doctor?  I think they haven' thought some of these things through.

That doesn't sound right to me. If the hospital places you in Intensive Care what choice do you have?

Do you have any documentation on that, WHL?

News Hawk wrote:

News Buzzard wrote:A regularly performed procedure doesn't sound like an emergency, so it warrants some pre-admission calls to find out if it's covered. You pretty much have to do that with all insurance companies, but if you're out of state and have a heart attack am I to understand that the treatment, or part of it, wouldn't be covered? It doesn't make any sense.

This "regularly-performed procedure" was for cancer—I considered it an emergency—with the alternative being a drive back to Florida!

Sorry for your illness, and obviously you and Medicare have a difference of opinion on what an emergency is.

Yeah, let me check, I have the court papers certifying that right in my back pocket, NB. Of course I don't have any certification. I have heard it discussed on tv and they were warning people to be careful.

NH, that's just awful. Did they tell you up front that it wouldn't be covered?

From what I've read, a hospital can hold a patient up to 48 hours for observation on an outpatient basis, and the billing would come to the patient through Medicare-Part B. In that scenario Medicare would pay 80% of the bill and the patient would be responsible for 20%. I did not see anything that said the patient must be admitted by his/her primary doctor. That would be an odd scenario around here anyway since Huggins doesn't allow the primary care physicians into the hospital to confer with the patients. That must be done by the hospitalists.                

You know, the Congress can legislate changes to Medicare to correct unfair situations for patients. This is not all Obama's doing. It appears that Paul Ryan is considering his well worn out legislation again where Medicare is turned into a voucher program. It's quite typical that the Republicans always have their sights set on the poor, never the wealthy!