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Post  News Hawk Thu Mar 20, 2014 12:00 pm

Video at the link:

http://www.dickmorris.com/the-collapse-of-obamacare-dick-morris-tv-lunch-alert/

New update:



The New York Times reports that between January and March of this year, the Obama Administration is and will spend $17 million a month advertising for ObamaCare.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/03/20/NYT-Administration-plays-to-young-in-health-push


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Post  News Buzzard Thu Mar 20, 2014 1:13 pm

Tell the 14 million people who have health insurance because of Obamacare that it's collapsing. Tell the people with pre-existing conditions who now have health insurance that it's collapsing. Tell the 56% of the people who don't want it repealed that it's collapsing. There's nothing wrong with a repair and the Republicans are always welcome to help out, but repeal is not an option!
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:52 pm

It looks like the enrollments may come in at 6.2 million by the end of the month. I hardly call that a collapse!
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Post  Outerlimits Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:09 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Tell the 14 million people who have health insurance because of Obamacare that it's collapsing. Tell the people with pre-existing conditions who now have health insurance that it's collapsing. Tell the 56% of the people who don't want it repealed that it's collapsing. There's nothing wrong with a repair and the Republicans are always welcome to help out, but repeal is not an option!


Where is Obama’s fix for Obamacare?

Where is the Democrat fix for Obamacare?

14 million insured????  Nice try.  More Obama fuzzy math.

7 million people have lost coverage because of Obamacare and they were actually paying for it..

According to Obama, 5.2 “signed up” for Obamacare.

That would be a net loss.

The Obama Administration cannot say how many have really signed up (paid) and they are counting Medicaid as sign ups (they pay nothing).

Medicaid sign up would be a detriment not an asset. but hey..its a number right?

If one is to look at the track record of this administration and it's minions, there is really NOTHING they say that can be taken as truth. With this administration is has been one lie after another, so why should we believe it when they say they have five million signed up?

The latest news reports are the premiums will double and in some states triple next year.
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:25 pm

That net loss nonsense is nothing but jive talk from the Right Wing Book Of Mythology. The overwhelming majority of folks who got cancellation notices got their health insurance back. If you think the 14 million number is bogus, then lobby your representatives to repeal Obamacare another 50 times. Good luck with that!!!   Razz
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Post  News Hawk Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:26 pm

More jive talk:

March Madness? Fake ObamaCare Enrollment Numbers which includes this heresy:

[/quote]"The president claimed that the number of enrollees has already reached the point where the law will work rather than collapse from lack of participation. But even if we accept his premise that falling millions of customers short of the announced goal of seven million is no big deal, the fact that hundreds of thousands of those being counted in the pool of those he’s counting are not covered because of non-payment of premiums makes his assertion a colossal fraud."[/quote]
—Commentary Magazine

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Post  News Buzzard Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:31 am

6.2 million and counting is pretty close to the target, and I dare you to find anyone in congress with the stones to take healthcare away from 14 million people. The reality is you're on another planet!
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Post  News Hawk Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:54 am

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Post  News Hawk Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:56 am

Thomas Sowell:

...We are about to see this deviousness on full display as the ongoing disaster that is ObamaCare continues to unravel. As premiums spike, access is reduced, quality of healthcare plummets, and more and more doctors and hospitals are discovered to be "out of network," all consequences of his misguided and misbegotten health policies, Obama can simply shrug his shoulders and say, "Not my problem. Your problem is with your private insurance carrier. Take it up with them. We told you they were greedy and uncaring. See?"


As Sowell says:

Thus the Obama administration can arbitrarily force insurance companies to cover the children of their customers until the children are 26 years old. Obviously, this creates favorable publicity for President Obama. But if this and other government edicts cause insurance premiums to rise, then that is something that can be blamed on the "greed" of the insurance companies.

So no matter what happens, he wins. And America loses. That's what happens when America elects a fascist to the highest office in the land.
http://www.gopusa.com/freshink/2014/06/05/why-president-obama-is-a-fascist/?subscriber=1

You were told of this!

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Post  News Buzzard Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:20 pm

Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing 

Another Conservative caves on the Medicaid expansion:

http://egbertowillies.com/2014/05/16/mike-pence-medicaid-expansion-obamacare/

After November we may see about 4 more Democratic Governors as several of the blockhead Republicans are behind in their polls. I think at least Maine and Pennsylvania will go into the Democrat's column, and who knows, maybe Florida and Wisconsin as well. That would be a good thing for Obamacare!      Very Happy
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Post  WHL Fri Jun 06, 2014 1:21 pm

Did you see that about 2 million that signed up for O Care either made a mistake or are lying about income, legal status or something else. Most of them were about income.
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Post  News Buzzard Fri Jun 06, 2014 2:55 pm

I'm actually glad there is a way to verify the information and most of it sounds like the outdated stuff:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/apnewsbreak-data-discrepancies-health-sign-ups
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Post  News Hawk Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:11 pm

News Buzzard wrote:"... I think at least Maine and Pennsylvania will go into the Democrat's column..."

Will there be precincts in Pennsylvania that again vote Dim 100%?

Then, you may be right.

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Post  Anti Federalist Sat Jun 07, 2014 1:57 am

News Hawk wrote:So no matter what happens, he wins. And America loses. That's what happens when America elects a fascist to the highest office in the land.

You were told of this!

Worthy of a re-post, as I have been saying this for years now.


Obama is Not a Socialist

Thomas Sowell

http://capitalismmagazine.com/2014/05/obama-socialist/

It bothers me a little when conservatives call Barack Obama a “socialist.” He certainly is an enemy of the free market, and wants politicians and bureaucrats to make the fundamental decisions about the economy. But that does not mean that he wants government ownership of the means of production, which has long been a standard definition of socialism.

What President Obama has been pushing for, and moving toward, is more insidious: government control of the economy, while leaving ownership in private hands. That way, politicians get to call the shots but, when their bright ideas lead to disaster, they can always blame those who own businesses in the private sector.

Politically, it is heads-I-win when things go right, and tails-you-lose when things go wrong. This is far preferable, from Obama’s point of view, since it gives him a variety of scapegoats for all his failed policies, without having to use President Bush as a scapegoat all the time.

Government ownership of the means of production means that politicians also own the consequences of their policies, and have to face responsibility when those consequences are disastrous — something that Barack Obama avoids like the plague.

Thus the Obama administration can arbitrarily force insurance companies to cover the children of their customers until the children are 26 years old. Obviously, this creates favorable publicity for President Obama. But if this and other government edicts cause insurance premiums to rise, then that is something that can be blamed on the “greed” of the insurance companies.

The same principle, or lack of principle, applies to many other privately owned businesses. It is a very successful political ploy that can be adapted to all sorts of situations.

One of the reasons why both pro-Obama and anti-Obama observers may be reluctant to see him as fascist is that both tend to accept the prevailing notion that fascism is on the political right, while it is obvious that Obama is on the political left.

Back in the 1920s, however, when fascism was a new political development, it was widely — and correctly — regarded as being on the political left. Jonah Goldberg’s great book “Liberal Fascism” cites overwhelming evidence of the fascists’ consistent pursuit of the goals of the left, and of the left’s embrace of the fascists as one of their own during the 1920s.

Mussolini, the originator of fascism, was lionized by the left, both in Europe and in America, during the 1920s. Even Hitler, who adopted fascist ideas in the 1920s, was seen by some, including W.E.B. Du Bois, as a man of the left.

It was in the 1930s, when ugly internal and international actions by Hitler and Mussolini repelled the world, that the left distanced themselves from fascism and its Nazi offshoot — and verbally transferred these totalitarian dictatorships to the right, saddling their opponents with these pariahs.

What socialism, fascism and other ideologies of the left have in common is an assumption that some very wise people — like themselves — need to take decisions out of the hands of lesser people, like the rest of us, and impose those decisions by government fiat.

The left’s vision is not only a vision of the world, but also a vision of themselves, as superior beings pursuing superior ends. In the United States, however, this vision conflicts with a Constitution that begins, “We the People…”

That is why the left has for more than a century been trying to get the Constitution’s limitations on government loosened or evaded by judges’ new interpretations, based on notions of “a living Constitution” that will take decisions out of the hands of “We the People,” and transfer those decisions to our betters.

The self-flattery of the vision of the left also gives its true believers a huge ego stake in that vision, which means that mere facts are unlikely to make them reconsider, regardless of what evidence piles up against the vision of the left, and regardless of its disastrous consequences.

Only our own awareness of the huge stakes involved can save us from the rampaging presumptions of our betters, whether they are called socialists or fascists. So long as we buy their heady rhetoric, we are selling our birthright of freedom.
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Post  News Buzzard Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:58 am

More whining from the anti-Obama crowd !  Rolling Eyes 
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