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Post  News Buzzard Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:12 pm

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Post  News Buzzard Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:12 am

The captured suspect said the video was part of the attack:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/khattala-benghazi-video-new-york-times
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Post  News Pigeon Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:27 am

Surprise.. surprise....no response! Rolling Eyes 
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Post  Outerlimits Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:34 am

You both make it sound like this is new information based on Tuesday’s capture. Ahmed Abu Khatall did not confess to a NYT reporter “yes, it was a spontaneous attack based on a movie” while in transit to a U.S. Naval ship where he is being held. And NO, that revelation did not come from any interrogation after he was captured.

You are conflating a bogus NY Times article from last year with Tuesday’s capture.

Multiple investigations determined the attack was planned and had nothing to do with any protest. The White House and State Department faced withering criticism, accused of providing insufficient security at the consulate, of responding too slowly as the crisis grew, and of pushing the spontaneous attack explanation that appeared baseless.

Khatall is a known terrorist not a protester who was mad about a movie and decided to kill some Americans. The attack on the embassy was a planned. It wasn't some random protest like this moronic administration would have you believe.

Seriously… How does a spontaneous attack during a protest over a YouTube video have a leader?
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:43 pm

News Pigeon wrote:Surprise.. surprise....no response! Rolling Eyes 

Yeah, right ! Congratulations, President Obama, for catching the guy ! You'll never get that congratulatory message from the right wing !
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Post  Outerlimits Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:34 pm

How'd they know it was the right guy? Did he have a movie poster on his wall of the Youtube Video that started the whole spontaneous protest?
 
 Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing 
 
I thought it was hilarious (and pathetic) on Tuesday when Obama State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki could not identify why it took two years to find the guy that was not hiding.

She said:  ” we did it as expeditiously as possible.” Shocked 
 
That must be the same expeditious manner in which we are scheduling appointments for veterans who need immediate healthcare treatment.
 
Dozens of media outlets where able to find the guy and interviewed him face to face…some even from HIS OWN HOUSE and we are supposed to believe it took all of our intelligence gathering agencies 2 years to find and apprehend  him?
 
We knew his name and address!!!
 
Do you REALLY  think we should congratulate Obama for a job well done?  What kind of fool do you have to be to believe any of this nonsense?
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:59 pm

Outerlimits wrote:Do you REALLY  think we should congratulate Obama for a job well done?  What kind of fool do you have to be to believe any of this nonsense?

I'm the "fool" who voted for the winner, not once, but twice !      Basketball
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Post  News Pigeon Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:05 pm

Outerlimits wrote:How'd they know it was the right guy? Did he have a movie poster on his wall of the Youtube Video that started the whole spontaneous protest?
 
 Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing 
 
I thought it was hilarious (and pathetic) on Tuesday when Obama State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki could not identify why it took two years to find the guy that was not hiding.

She said:  ” we did it as expeditiously as possible.” Shocked 
 
That must be the same expeditious manner in which we are scheduling appointments for veterans who need immediate healthcare treatment.
 
Dozens of media outlets where able to find the guy and interviewed him face to face…some even from HIS OWN HOUSE and we are supposed to believe it took all of our intelligence gathering agencies 2 years to find and apprehend  him?
 
We knew his name and address!!!
 
Do you REALLY  think we should congratulate Obama for a job well done?  What kind of fool do you have to be to believe any of this nonsense?

Are you aware of what an investigation entails? Would you have our guys just go grab someone they "thought might be the guy but then again"...???????
That would be something the knee-jerk Republicans might do.....
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Post  Outerlimits Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:08 pm

News Buzzard wrote:
Outerlimits wrote:Do you REALLY  think we should congratulate Obama for a job well done?  What kind of fool do you have to be to believe any of this nonsense?

I'm the "fool" who voted for the winner, not once, but twice !      Basketball


At least you have the guts to admit to a mistake.  Laughing 

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Post  WHL Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:10 pm

Outerlimits wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:
Outerlimits wrote:Do you REALLY  think we should congratulate Obama for a job well done?  What kind of fool do you have to be to believe any of this nonsense?

I'm the "fool" who voted for the winner, not once, but twice !      Basketball


At least you have the guts to admit to a mistake.    Laughing 


LOL, I was going to say I can't believe he admits it!
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Post  Outerlimits Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:16 pm

WHL wrote: LOL, I was going to say I can't believe he admits it!

He will probably be blaming Bush for that soon.


New Pigeon wrote:Are you aware of what an investigation entails? Would you have our guys just go grab someone they "thought might be the guy but then again"...???????
That would be something the knee-jerk Republicans might do.....


Maybe you should be the next State Depart Spokeswoman. You just made up a slightly more plausible excuse Psaki was able to come up with.
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:30 pm

Outerlimits wrote:At least you have the guts to admit to a mistake.

My next mistake will be Hillary, and with her I will be picking a winner in 2016 as well.
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Post  News Pigeon Thu Jun 19, 2014 5:45 pm

Outerlimits wrote:


New Pigeon wrote:Are you aware of what an investigation entails? Would you have our guys just go grab someone they "thought might be the guy but then again"...???????
That would be something the knee-jerk Republicans might do.....


Maybe you should be the next State Depart Spokeswoman.  You just made up a slightly more plausible excuse Psaki was able to come up with.

It's not an excuse, it's a fact! Remember the 500+ prisoners Bush had to release from Gitmo, they were poor farmers captured by mistake in the rush to prove his "manliness"...
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Post  News Hawk Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:41 pm

News Buzzard wrote:The captured suspect said the video was part of the attack:
How many "protestors" launch mortar shots into embassies?

Our two Americans firing defensively were finally killed by a mortar "getting range" on the US embassy's rooftop.

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Post  News Hawk Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:53 pm

News Buzzard wrote:
Outerlimits wrote:Do you REALLY  think we should congratulate Obama for a job well done?  What kind of fool do you have to be to believe any of this nonsense?

I'm the "fool" who voted for the winner, not once, but twice !    

Many voted twice, so you've got company in 2012's fraudulent voter turnout:

PALM BEACH COUNTY, Fla. - Justice will soon be served for hundreds of Florida voters, after a man from Washington state admitted that he tried to keep local Republicans from turning out in the 2012 presidential election. That man could soon be headed to prison.

State and federal agencies first started looking into possible voter fraud in Palm Beach County in the fall of 2012.
http://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/seattle-man-admits-to-voter-fraud-intimidation-in-palm-beach-county

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Post  News Buzzard Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:25 am

My vote wasn't fraudulent and I'm glad I voted for President Obama. He is trying to stop this endless cycle of war we have become used to under the likes of Bush and Cheney. People can lie all they want about Obama but it didn't do them or Romney any good.
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Post  Outerlimits Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:06 am

New Pigeon wrote: It's not an excuse, it's a fact! Remember the 500+ prisoners Bush had to release from Gitmo, they were poor farmers captured by mistake in the rush to prove his "manliness"...
 
 
These 5 GITMO detainees were not farmers.
 
US Captures Benghazi Ringleader Gitmo-detainees-released-2
 
 
If you have to equivocate Bush and Obama in your defense of Obama, then you've already lost the argument.
 
 
Bush was slightly better than Obama, but that's not saying much. Getting involved in the Middle East because you want to bring democracy to a people is an egalitarian fantasy.
 
Obama on the other hand, is a true believer; ideology first, last, and always. That alone makes him a very dangerous man. Obama lacks a sense of reality and views everything through a filter of his ideology.
 
Obama would have probably better suited to be an associate professor of art history at a community college in Northern California. Teach a few hours, feed his cats, volunteer at the local community theater, etc.  He shouldn't have any real power, responsibility, and never be taken seriously.
 
Oh well. It's what the people wanted…Hope and Change.
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Post  News Buzzard Fri Jun 20, 2014 1:23 pm

That's your opinion. I've seen a great deal of change and I'm hopeful the economy will keep on improving. The only moronic dinosaurs are the obstructive Republicans.  In the end, Obama is the President and you are not.
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Post  News Hawk Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:42 pm

News Buzzard wrote:"...In the end, Obama is the President and you are not..."

For now.


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Post  News Buzzard Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:49 pm

News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:"...In the end, Obama is the President and you are not..."

For now.

Until Jan 20, 2017, the day Hillary is sworn in ! Don't be foolish enough to feed off that impeachment nonsense. That ain't gonna happen !  No
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Post  News Hawk Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:38 pm

News Buzzard wrote:"...My vote wasn't fraudulent and I'm glad I voted for President Obama..."

Was your vote based on "NO WMD sites in Iraq"?

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Washington—Sunni extremists in Iraq have occupied what was once Saddam Hussein's premier chemical-weapons production facility, a complex that still contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department and other U.S. government officials said.

"We remain concerned about the seizure of any military site by the ISIL," Jen Psaki, the State Department spokeswoman, said in a written statement. "We do not believe that the complex contains CW materials of military value and it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to safely move the materials."

The takeover underscores the chaos gripping Iraq and the possibility that the growing Sunni rebellion could further destabilize the Middle East. Not lost on U.S. government and military officials is the irony that the latest chapter in a war designed to strip Iraq of chemical weapons could see radical Sunni extremists take control of that same stockpile.

The rise of ISIS has reignited the debate about the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the Bush administration and the 2011 decision by the Obama administration to withdraw remaining military forces from the country. The takeover of a chemical weapons stockpile—even if the weapons are useless—seems likely to further intensify those debates.

Al-Iraqiya TV is full of patriotic programming and ads as the Iraqi Army struggles to counter an ISIS offensive. One TV ad portrays ISIS as a snake-handling ghoul. Via The Foreign Bureau, WSJ's global news update.

During the Iran-Iraq war of the 1980s, Hussein used the Muthanna complex to make chemical weapons, including sarin, mustard gas, and VX (a nerve agent), according the Iraq Study Group, which conducted the hunt for weapons of mass destruction in the aftermath of the war.

The Iraq Study group did find chemical munitions at Muthanna but determined that inspections by United Nations Special Commission, or Unscom, had ensured the facility was dismantled and remaining chemical stocks militarily useless and sealed in bunkers.

"Two wars, sanctions and Unscom oversight reduced Iraqi's premier production facility to a stockpile of old damaged and contaminated chemical munitions (sealed in bunkers), a wasteland full of destroyed chemical munitions, razed structures, and unusable war-ravaged facilities," the Iraq Study Group's 2004 report concluded.

The Muthanna complex is near Lake Tharthar, roughly 45 miles northwest of Baghdad, an area now firmly in control of the Sunni rebels. ISIS has taken control of most of Anbar province as well as Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city.

Military officials said the U.S. was well aware of the Muthanna stockpile and wouldn't have left it there if it posed a military threat. Still, when the U.S. pulled out of Iraq, it didn't anticipate a large swath of the country, including numerous military bases, would be overrun by radical Sunni militants. One official said that if the U.S. had known the Iraqi government would lose control so soon, it might not have left the old chemical weapons in place.

"The only people who would likely be harmed by these chemical materials would be the people who tried to use or move them," said a military official.

ISIS military gains have been aided by other Sunni groups including Baathists and other former loyalists to Hussein. Officers in Hussein's army have also taken leadership roles in the rebellion. Some of those men may have some working knowledge of the use of chemical weapons from the Iran-Iraq war.

Write to Julian E. Barnes at julian.barnes@wsj.com

It's so nice to be reassured by our Government.

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