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Post  News Buzzard on Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:31 pm

The uninsured rate of adults dropped form 20.3% to 13.2%!! That represents a 35% rate of reduction of people who are uninsured!! Very Happy

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/16-4m-gain-coverage-under-150853305.html

This is the biggest drop in the rate of Americans without health insurance in four decades!!!   cheers

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Post  WHL on Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:34 pm

Yes, thank you Mr President for taking from us to give to others and forcing others to buy something or be penalized.
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Post  News Buzzard on Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:45 pm

WHL wrote:Yes, thank you Mr President for taking from us to give to others and forcing others to buy something or be penalized.

You can thank Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation for coming up with that idea!! Very Happy

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Post  Outerlimits on Mon Mar 16, 2015 3:58 pm

86 Percent of Health Law Enrollees Receive Subsidies, White House Says

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/11/us/11-7-million-americans-have-insurance-under-health-act.html?_r=0#

Your healthcare is not free…It's paid by others.
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Post  News Buzzard on Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:13 pm

Outerlimits wrote:86 Percent of Health Law Enrollees Receive Subsidies, White House Says

What's your point? Everyone who has a family member in a nursing home is receiving a major subsidy, and everyone on Medicare is being subsidized. Everyone who walks into an emergency room is being subsidized, so why do you single out Obamacare to bash the subsidies!

Even the Republican Governor of Wyoming is rooting for Obamacare in King vs Burwell, because he knows how disastrous a negative Supreme Court decision will be!

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/03/16/3634062/republican-governor-says-wants-supreme-court-case-obamacare-lose/

In the end you will eventually have to accept the fact that Obamacare is here to stay! (That's like getting a turtle to cross the road quickly)

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Post  WHL on Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:54 pm

Nothing bad is ever Obama's idea, is it NB?
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Post  News Buzzard on Mon Mar 16, 2015 5:32 pm

You won't get the chance to deny Obama his legacy, WHL!

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Post  WHL on Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:28 pm

I don't want to deny him his legacy. Let him have it!!!! I would be embarrassed to have HIS legacy, the worst president ever!!!!
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Post  News Hawk on Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:16 pm

News Buzzard wrote:In the end you will eventually have to accept the fact that Obamacare is here to stay has been FORCED on you!


Government has to lock down malpractice scams and abuses to really get a handle on skyrocketing costs.

A good start is taking care of Medicare fraud (there's 111 Billionaires in California), tort reform and competition across state lines.

A new bill—2 pages...3 tops—pass it and send it to the senate.

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A Legacy of EVIL...

Post  News Hawk on Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:24 am

News Buzzard wrote:"...You won't get the chance to deny Obama his legacy..."

His "Legacy"?

Evil or Very Mad




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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:52 am

News Hawk wrote:A good start is taking care of Medicare fraud (there's 111 Billionaires in California), tort reform and competition across state lines.

Since when can we limit the amount of damages one is awarded in any lawsuit? If a patient gets seriously hacked up by a bad surgeon do we have the right to limit the amount of the award to that patient? What the hell benefit can we get by shopping across state lines? Insurance rates are based on claims history, so do you think an out of state insurance company will not know the claims history of any particular region? scratch Did it ever occur to you that our problem is that $800 bag of saline which costs $2 to manufacture, or that $50 aspirin? Did it ever occur to you that our problem is the fact that healthcare in the US is twice as expensive as anywhere else in the world?

You don't care because you're on Social Security and Medicare, but you think everyone else should not be! Rolling Eyes

Obamacare is here to stay!!

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Post  Outerlimits on Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:36 am

News Buzzard wrote:
Outerlimits wrote:86 Percent of Health Law Enrollees Receive Subsidies, White House Says

What's your point? Everyone who has a family member in a nursing home is receiving a major subsidy, and everyone on Medicare is being subsidized. Everyone who walks into an emergency room is being subsidized, so why do you single out Obamacare to bash the subsidies![/b]

My point:

Obamacare was supposed to lower the cost of healthcare and remain revenue neutral. It was not supposed to be welfare. If Obama and the Democrats tried to pass this thing as a new welfare entitlement it would NEVER have passed.  

I don't single out Obamacare to bash subsidies.  I regularly bash Medicare and Medicaid.  The very existence of Medicare and Medicaid should be enough evidence Obamacare should have never seen the light of day.
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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Mar 18, 2015 12:04 pm

Outerlimits wrote:I don't single out Obamacare to bash subsidies.  I regularly bash Medicare and Medicaid.  The very existence of Medicare and Medicaid should be enough evidence Obamacare should have never seen the light of day.

That's where we part ways. Medicare has been working very well for 50 years and gives seniors the comfort that they will have health coverage in their golden years. Medicaid will prevent families from fiscal ruin if a member of their family needs nursing home care, such as in Alzheimers, and Obamacare gives those who are less fortunate the ability to purchase health insurance. The House Republicans released their joke of a budget that eliminates Obamacare and Medicare for everyone under the age of 56, but that will never see the light of day.

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Post  News Hawk on Wed Mar 18, 2015 1:45 pm






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Post  Outerlimits on Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:22 pm

News Buzzard wrote:...and Obamacare gives those who are less fortunate the ability to purchase health insurance.

And there it is.

Only 15% of Obamacare enrollees purchase their health insurance. 85% of them are receiving welfare.

The lie was and still is; Obamacare will reduce the cost of healthcare. In fact, Obamacare is a new means tested welfare program.
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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:41 pm

What's your point? Is it better to give these people free medical care in the overloaded emergency rooms?

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Post  News Buzzard on Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:46 pm

Outerlimits wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:...and Obamacare gives those who are less fortunate the ability to purchase health insurance.

And there it is.

Only 15% of Obamacare enrollees purchase their health insurance.  85% of them are receiving welfare.

The lie was and still is; Obamacare will reduce the cost of healthcare.  In fact, Obamacare is a new means tested welfare program.  

I'm OK if you want to call it a welfare program! In the end, you're never going to get rid of Obamacare, the same as you're never going to get rid of Medicare!

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Post  News Hawk on Wed Mar 18, 2015 6:53 pm

News Buzzard wrote:What's your point? Is it better to give these people free medical care in the overloaded emergency rooms?
Maybe on Friday nights, but I've never seen an "overloaded" ER.

Maybe if you bus in (truck-in) (fly-in) (train-in) millions of Illegals, Obama can overload the US healthcare system.

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Inept and incompetent Washington, DC...

Post  News Hawk on Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:33 am

From 1022 reasons to dislike Obama...

330) Obama administration sent false tax information to 800,000 Obamacare enrollees

In February 2015, it was reported that the Obama administration had sent false tax information to 800,000 Obamacare enrollees.
https://myaccount.nytimes.com/mem/purchase/gateway/checkout.html?OC=258496&campaignId=3KXK7&siteID=UO85MF6im_8-2T3IFaVFCm_BgmQD8q5bXQ



324) During the first year that Obamacare was in effect, the percentage of U.S. citizens who said they had trouble affording health care increased from 36% to 46%

In February 2015, the New York Times wrote:

"A recent New York Times/CBS poll found that 46 percent of Americans said they had trouble affording health care, up 10 percentage points in just one year".

...and Democrats want people to vote for them—again...

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Post  red_hill on Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:00 am

NB, the issue is that the program was supposed to be supported by younger, more affluent people who use less services and are paying higher rates. We are seeing that that is not happening.

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Post  News Buzzard on Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:08 am

Its a very difficult point to argue when we don't know where the numbers will wind up. We've only been through two enrollment cycles, and despite the fact that 16.4 million more people have health insurance the Republicans never wanted to give it a chance from day 1. It's all about crushing Obama's signature legislation to them, not about the millions more who can get health insurance. I am disappointed in Obamacare because I think every citizen of this country should have healthcare, single payer type, but that will never happen with the infusion of big money into politics.

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Post  News Hawk on Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:56 am

They'll find a way to limit Obamacare through Lois Lerner.


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Post  News Hawk on Mon Mar 23, 2015 7:47 pm

News Buzzard wrote:
WHL wrote:Yes, thank you Mr President for taking from us to give to others and forcing others to buy something or be penalized.

You can thank Mitt Romney and the Heritage Foundation for coming up with that idea!! Very Happy


HillaryCare was first, and FAILED...

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Post  WHL on Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:39 am

And I still say Romney was governing in a DEMOCRATIC state. I don't think if he really had his way, he would have wanted it. I think he compromised, he had to.
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Post  Outerlimits on Tue Mar 24, 2015 4:00 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Its a very difficult point to argue when we don't know where the numbers will wind up.


That is true,


But lets’ look at what we know so far.

1. We still can't find the missing 35 Million uninsured dying in the streets that Obama swore existed and under Obamacare they are still uninsured.

2. Millions lost the healthcare they liked, the doctors they liked and the hospitals the liked.

3. Obama can violate the Constitution and legislate via Executive Order.

4. Obamacare does nothing to change the cost to deliver healthcare.  Providers still need to overcharge to make up for undercharged and unpaid services (your $85 Tylenol).

5. We still don’t know how many of the 16 million had insurance before Obamacare.

6. Democrats can’t count, and will spend years saying Obamacare will create hundreds of billions in surpluses; despite the truth which is it will generate trillion dollar deficits.

7. Obamacare supporters are willfully ignorant and will deny both truth & reality.

8. Democrats define success as more people dependent on government.

Finally, we learned that what Plato said is true:

But even democracy ruins itself by excess–of democracy...it becomes disastrous because the people are not properly equipped by education to select the best rulers and the wisest courses. "As to the people they have no understanding, and only repeat what their rulers are pleased to tell them" (Protagoras, 317);

To get a doctrine accepted or rejected it is only necessary to have it praised or ridiculed by media pundits and popular celebrities
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