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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Dragonfly on Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:24 pm

Wow - that's a stretch.  Crying or Very sad 

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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  WHL on Sun Jun 29, 2014 4:40 pm

Amy B wrote:No one would question Mr. Copeland's right to free speech. No one suggests he has done anything illegal. But it's odd how some who most vehemently support his first amendment rights somehow feel those rights don't extend to other citizen's rights to speak up and express that such hateful and bigoted views are intolerable for a town official in a position of authority. If that makes me a self-righteous clone I graciously and proudly accept that label.

He should have the right to free speech,just as the other side should have the right to free speech by saying they did not like what he said. However the critical side wasn't happy just SAYING they didn't like his comment, they had to have him resign! There is a big difference.
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Post  News Hawk on Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:39 pm

Dragonfly wrote:Wow - that's a stretch.  Crying or Very sad 

Both lost their incomes from a crowd—that given enough time—could be as dangerous as a lynch mob. "PC" is killing the right to speak our minds.

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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Amy B on Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:42 pm

Yes...they SAID that such an angry bigoted foul mouthed person had no place in a position of authority supervising our PD. He didn't have to resign. It was his decision.
I hardly view Wolfeboro as the epicenter of PC culture. Wolfeboro is not Cambridge or DC. If you ticked off that many Wolfeboroites to get a response like what we saw at the meeting at the Wolfeboro library then that speaks to how out of line this guy was. He got what he deserved and from his so called apology he seems to have learned little from the experience.
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Post  WHL on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:02 pm

Amy B wrote:Yes...they SAID that such an angry bigoted foul mouthed person had no place in a position of authority supervising our PD. He didn't have to resign. It was his decision.
  I hardly view Wolfeboro as the epicenter of PC culture. Wolfeboro is not Cambridge or DC. If you ticked off that many Wolfeboroites to get a response like what we saw at the meeting at the Wolfeboro library then that speaks to how out of line this guy was. He got what he deserved and from his so called apology he seems to have learned little from the experience.
He really did have to resign.  He was forced out.  He said something he shouldn't have said, the other side should have said it wasn't nice and that should have been the end of it.  Instead it became a "federal case".
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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Dragonfly on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:32 pm

It absolutely became a Federal case as it should have. Much better run out of the position then have him slip, make a decision that affected the Town of Wolfeboro and take all of us with him.

Sad thing is it's a culture issue. Rich old white bigoted white men. . . we won't change as a society until they die off and our younger generation (who mixes w/o trouble) takes over and eliminates all this nonesense and replace it with common sense.

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Post  News Hawk on Sun Jun 29, 2014 7:37 pm

Amy B wrote:"...I hardly view Wolfeboro as the epicenter of PC culture..."
Maybe Dragonfly was right when she wrote "Wolfeboro is too "white-bread".

But I support her right to express that thought.

(Although that also "reflects poorly on Wolfeboro").

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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  WHL on Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:25 am

I don't know Mr. Copeland but maybe he told the truth when he said he isn't a racist, he just doesn't like Obama.  I don't like Obama but as  I have said a hundred times before, but would vote in a heartbeat for a black with different beliefs than Obama.
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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  News Hawk on Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:43 am

Yesterday, a Democrat called us, gringos-y-otros-pendejos.

What do you bet he keeps his Democrat position?


No

http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/racist-texas-dem-calls-republicans-gringos-y-otros-pendejos/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  News Hawk on Mon Jun 30, 2014 8:59 am

Yesterday, a Democrat called us, gringos-y-otros-pendejos.

What do you bet he keeps his Democrat position?


No

http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/racist-texas-dem-calls-republicans-gringos-y-otros-pendejos/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Dragonfly on Mon Jun 30, 2014 9:15 am

Well when someone calls me a gringo fool that's probably true. I don't take offense.

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Post  WHL on Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:52 pm

Dragonfly wrote:Well when someone calls me a gringo fool that's probably true. I don't take offense.
You shouldn't, we need to toughen up. Yeah, it might hurt your feelings but remember how our mothers taught us to be tough?  "Sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you."
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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  WHL on Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:54 pm

News Hawk wrote:Yesterday, a Democrat called us, gringos-y-otros-pendejos.

What do you bet he keeps his Democrat position?


No

http://downtrend.com/robertgehl/racist-texas-dem-calls-republicans-gringos-y-otros-pendejos/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
It DOES make a difference, NH.  Dems get away with anything.
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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  News Hawk on Mon Jun 30, 2014 6:34 pm

Dragonfly wrote:Well when someone calls me a gringo fool that's probably true. I don't take offense.
A "gringa-fool" weren't the words used.

I'm sure Obama didn't take offense—why should he, when he has his proxies everywhere to dig up dirt on others?

(But especially Republicans).

Doesn't anybody see Communist Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" in play here? There's a phrase for this kind of dirt.


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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Dragonfly on Mon Jun 30, 2014 7:41 pm

Why yes of course I'm a gringas not a gringos. What was I thinking.  Embarassed 

But you're also right it wasn't a common word for American fool or jerk he was using.  Cool 

Regardless of your position on immigration, the rest of the country is experiencing a beautiful blending of cultures without us and we're whiter then ever in the greater Wolfeboro area. . .there's no mistaken' this area for Northern Appalachia. It is what it is.  Wink Wink 

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Post  WHL on Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:25 am

Seems from reading the papers this week, they just don't want to let the whole thing go either.  Maybe they will be happy if he calls up Obama and tells him he loves him.  No, they would still say it isn't real.
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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  News Hawk on Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:44 am

WHL wrote:
It DOES make a difference, NH.  Dems get away with anything.

Some have seen the light!

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/ten_reasons_i_am_no_longer_a_leftist.html

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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  News Hawk on Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:59 am

Dragonfly wrote:It absolutely became a Federal case as it should have.  Much better run out of the position then have him slip, make a decision that affected the Town of Wolfeboro and take all of us with him.  

Sad thing is it's a culture issue.  Rich old white bigoted white men. . . we won't change as a society until they die off and our younger generation (who mixes w/o trouble) takes over and eliminates all this nonsense and replace it with common sense.
Yup...

Common Sense is everywhere!

Mark Twain used the same "N" word—should we now go dig him up, and burn his books?

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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Dragonfly on Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:55 am

Well let me think about this a minute . . . Mark Twain used it as a cultural norm in a fictional character vs. a Real time POLICE COMMISSIONER who showed what was in his heart and soul and is in a supervisory position that could cause great harm to the Town of Wolfeboro if we were sued. Helllllloooooo? Are you serious? Took you a while to come up with that one.  Rolling Eyes Good grief Charlie Brown!

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Does the White House Search Out Such People?

Post  News Hawk on Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:03 pm

Dragonfly wrote:Well let me think about this a minute . . . Mark Twain used it as a cultural norm in a fictional character vs. a Real time POLICE COMMISSIONER who showed what was in his heart and soul and is in a supervisory position that could cause great harm to the Town of Wolfeboro if we were sued.   Helllllloooooo?  Are you serious?  Took you a while to come up with that one.  Rolling Eyes Good grief Charlie Brown!  
So, Bob Copeland used a "cultural norm" to describe Obama?

 scratch 

Can you really see what is in Bob Copeland's heart and soul?

scratch

We hear the "N-word" every day on Radio/TV. Why doesn't that "cultural norm" apply to Obama?

scratch

Would there have ever been an embarrassment to Wolfeboro, had the private conversation gone undocumented—such as it was?

scratch

You didn't read the previous link, that tells you what you've [hopefully] unknowingly become?

scratch

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/ten_reasons_i_am_no_longer_a_leftist.html


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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Dragonfly on Sun Jul 20, 2014 5:54 pm

All I'm saying is that it was a cultural norm in the 1850's and 60's not in 2014.

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Know Thyself...

Post  News Hawk on Sun Jul 20, 2014 9:40 pm

Dragonfly wrote:All I'm saying is that it was a cultural norm in the 1850's and 60's not in 2014.
The "N-word" cultural-norm can be heard TODAY played on boats with amplified speakers in Wolfeboro's Winter Harbor. Do you want me to find a video (a video selfie) where the very same expression is used to describe Obama?

It's really too late, Wolfeboro's name has already been besmirched by "good intentions"—the hallmark of a Liberal/Socialist.

IF you had read a former leftist's attitude in the above link, you'd find these words:

"I felt that I was confronting the signature essence of my social life among leftists. We rushed to cast everyone in one of three roles: victim, victimizer, or champion of the oppressed. We lived our lives in a constant state of outraged indignation.

(There are 9 more reasons to quit being PC.)

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Quoting LBJ Would Have Been Acceptible...

Post  News Hawk on Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:59 pm

Amy B wrote:Wow...10 letters critical of Robert Copeland in today's Granite Sate News, another editorial, and the story made the Concord Monitor and Union Leader as well.

What was written when Lyndon Baines Johnson said:

"I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years."
~ Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-relentless-conservative/the-democratic-partys-two_b_933995.html

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More devastating quotes from the 'party that cares'—or pretends to care—to deceive voters...at the link.

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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Amy B on Sun Aug 17, 2014 12:30 pm

While I'm with you 100% on your Winnipesaukee observations I have to differ with you here. What LBJ said a half century ago has little more relevance than the use of the N word in The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn three quarters of a century earlier (and in Huck Finn Mark Twain portrays Jim and Huck as equals on the raft as Huck helps Jim escape to freedom).
  The first step when aspiring to a diverse yet harmonious and cohesive society, in my mind, is to treat people with respect. When the N word enters the equation that says "end of conversation".  I would respectfully offer that 2014 is not 1964 or the late 1800's. We have to try to do better.

  And as noted, I enjoy your spot on comments regarding boating and Winnipesaukee!
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Re: This reflects poorly on Wolfeboro

Post  Dragonfly on Mon Aug 18, 2014 9:31 am

Thank you for that wonderful post. We do need to do better.

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