Not a word on the Bundy Ranch stand off around here?

Anti Federalist wrote:Color me surprised...

WHL wrote:Good one, NH!!

Now they are trying to take the land away from the Texas farmers!!! What is wrong with this government??

Long before Cliven Bundy faced down federal agents in his dispute with the Bureau of Land Management over grazing rights, fellow Nevada rancher Raymond Yowell, an 84-year-old former Shoshone chief, watched as the BLM seized his herd.

Adding to that, since 2008 they've taken his money as well -- in the form of a piece of his Social Security checks.

Yowell's 132 head of cattle had grazed for decades on the South Fork Western Shoshone Indian Reservation in northeastern Nevada until 2002, when the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) -- the same agency at odds with Bundy -- seized them.

The federal agency sold the cattle at auction and used the proceeds to pay off the portion of back grazing fees it claimed Yowell owed. Once the cattle was sold, the agency sent Yowell a bill for the outstanding balance, some $180,000.

They've been garnishing his monthly Social Security checks since 2008 to satisfy the debt Yowell says he does not owe.

"There’s a definite pattern in the West, beginning in the 1990s, maybe in the late '80s, of what I feel are illegal cattle seizures," Yowell said. "[Bundy's case] is the latest example of that pattern.”


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WHL wrote:What is going to become of all of us????

D’Andre Berghardt was a young black man walking alone down a highway on his way to a new life. He was killed on Valentines Day of this year, not too far from where the Bundy ranch is. Mr. Derghardt’s senseless murder was filmed.

He was shot by BLM officers who are funded by the very ‘fees’ Mr. Bundy stopped paying, and our tax dollars.

Its a tragic but perfect example of why Mr. Bundy stopped paying BLM fees – he realized the branch of government set up to help him and collect those fees was ultimately using the money (fees) against him, his neighbors and the American people. He stood up.
Here is that film:

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Does anyone really believe our government, the BLM cares about cows, turtles, or least of all – our constitutional rights ?

Does anyone really think Mr. Bundy would be alive today if he met the BLM alone on a highway ?
http://www.brotherjohnf.com/archives/292123

The recent armed standoff between the Bureau of Land Management and a crowd of supporters of Nevada rancher Clive Bundy was disturbing on many levels.  Forget for a moment whether or not Bundy was right or wrong in his dispute with the Bureau of Land Management. Then just concentrate on the methods used by Team Obama’s BLM to enforce their will on Bundy.

They deployed over 100 armed agents, they deployed a helicopter, and they deployed trucks and earthmoving equipment. All to enforce a landlord tenant dispute. The operation had to cost you and I many tens of thousands of dollars. Bundy had not been paying his land use fees. BLM attempted to kill or to capture the cattle that he had been grazing on federal lands for decades. In their attempts cattle were killed.

Bundy instantly  became a folk hero and his cause was championed by hundreds if not thousands of persons, many armed. The threat of a major firefight between BLM and the Bundy supporter was very real. Fortunately BLM withdrew. Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid soiled himself when he labeled the Bundy supporters as being “domestic terrorists”

The BLM is run by Neil Kornze. He is young, and during his confirmation hearing his experience was questioned. But, Kornze had been one of Harry Reid’s staffers, and given the Democrat majority in the Senate, he was approved.

Bundy is no saint, no role model. Apparently he is a bigot and a scofflaw.

But the idea of the Feds mounting a paramilitary division sized assault in such a circumstance is deeply troubling. It brings to mind the extraordinary amount of firepower civilian federal agencies are amassing.

A little more than a year ago, the Social Security Administration put in a request for 174,000 rounds of “.357 SIG 125 grain bonded jacketed hollow-point” bullets. Why on earth does the Social Security admin need guns and ammo, they have no arrest powers whatsoever.

Before that, it was the Department of Agriculture that requested 320,000 rounds of small arms ammo. Perhaps the
D o A is girding its loins for a  firefight showdown with the evil corn weevils.

The FBI bought 100 million hollow-point rounds. There are about 13,412 special agents with the US Federal Bureau of Investigation. That means that they bought about 7,500 rounds per agent. I believe that Agents qualify 3 times a year and shoot 60 rounds each time.  You do the math.

In the war in Iraq, our military forces expended approximately 70 million rounds per year. In March DHS ordered 750 million rounds of hollow point ammunition. It then turned around and ordered an additional 750 million rounds of miscellaneous rounds including some that are capable of penetrating walls. Why so much, and why armor piercing ammo?

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration also requested 46,000 rounds. Why, do they intended to enter into armed conflict with tornados?

We have local police, backed up by each state’s National Guard, backed up by the Department of Defense. Why does the alphabet soup of federal regulatory agencies have a need to be armed? Under what rationale do they justify arming themselves. Why do the SSA, NOAA and other government agencies need to create their own armed civilian security forces?

It is becoming crystal clear that Team Obama is succeeding his goal to be a “transformational” president. The evidence strongly suggests that he and his are morphing many branches of our government, they are mutating regulatory agencies into paramilitary assets. Our government is increasing its power each and every day. The taste of power is sweet, and to some it is irresistible.

All of this sounds warning klaxons for people who respect the Second Amendment. Please think about the eternal and ever growing liberal quest for their Golden Grail of abrogating the rights enumerated in the Second Amendment.

BPK.com

WHL wrote:This story just kind of died, didn't it.  And without us hearing much at all about Harry Reid's sun wanting that land.

"ENN Energy Group wants to build a 5 billion dollar solar farm in the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone, on which Bundy’s farm is located. Who are the investors for ENN? The Chinese, using the EB-5 program. Who represents ENN in its negotiations? Rory Reid, Harry’s son. This little band has already run 52 other ranchers in the area. Bundy is the last one left.

So was the BLM there in force for turtles or as the private enforcement machine of a corrupt Senator seeking to fill his pockets with cash? Senator Reid is the one who said, “This isn’t over yet.” He’s apparently in a position to know."

WHL wrote:I know.  I heard that in the very beginning.  THat's what the whole thing was about!!!!

Do you guys see the paradigm on the threshold here?

If the laws are for the little people, and those making them up to suit their power and greed are not bound by them, then there is no law. If there is no rule of law, only rule of men, then there is no moral imperative for the people to obey or submit to illegitimate power of those running Our government who posses no legitimate mandate of the people

Anti Federalist wrote:

Do you guys see the paradigm on the threshold here?

If the laws are for the little people, and those making them up to suit their power and greed are not bound by them, then there is no law. If there is no rule of law, only rule of men, then there is no moral imperative for the people to obey or submit to illegitimate power of those running Our government who posses no legitimate mandate of the people

Regulation without Representation.