Bill O'Reilly joins progressives and O-bomb-ya in calling for war with Syria.
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Re: Bill O'Reilly joins progressives and O-bomb-ya in calling for war with Syria.
I have never and would never say anything close to what that guy in Maine said about Obama, WHL, and you just write if off to the guy's right to free speech! (obviously because Obama was the subject of his wrath)
Some folks on here refer to News Pigeon as a carpetbagger or stalker, but I remind everyone that she has been on Wolfeboro forums a lot longer than many folks on this forum. She was good friends with Lugnut, and also welcomed to subsequent forums by Matzoh Heppelwhite and myself. I do reside in Wolfeboro now and have been a part-timer for over 20 years, and News Pigeon is welcome here as far as I'm concerned. She is very intelligent and has more brains in her pinky than the one who refers to her as a stalker.
Some folks on here refer to News Pigeon as a carpetbagger or stalker, but I remind everyone that she has been on Wolfeboro forums a lot longer than many folks on this forum. She was good friends with Lugnut, and also welcomed to subsequent forums by Matzoh Heppelwhite and myself. I do reside in Wolfeboro now and have been a part-timer for over 20 years, and News Pigeon is welcome here as far as I'm concerned. She is very intelligent and has more brains in her pinky than the one who refers to her as a stalker.
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Thank you dear friend...at least a few people in NH aren't creepy assholes!News Buzzard wrote:I have never and would never say anything close to what that guy in Maine said about Obama, WHL, and you just write if off to the guy's right to free speech! (obviously because Obama was the subject of his wrath)
Some folks on here refer to News Pigeon as a carpetbagger or stalker, but I remind everyone that she has been on Wolfeboro forums a lot longer than many folks on this forum. She was good friends with Lugnut, and also welcomed to subsequent forums by Matzoh Heppelwhite and myself. I do reside in Wolfeboro now and have been a part-timer for over 20 years, and News Pigeon is welcome here as far as I'm concerned. She is very intelligent and has more brains in her pinky than the one who refers to her as a stalker.
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You're welcome, my friend, and this forum doesn't really represent the good citizens of Wolfeboro! It is mostly just a group of frustrated malcontents, many of whom don't even live here.News Pigeon wrote:Thank you dear friend...at least a few people in NH aren't creepy assholes!News Buzzard wrote:I have never and would never say anything close to what that guy in Maine said about Obama, WHL, and you just write if off to the guy's right to free speech! (obviously because Obama was the subject of his wrath)
Some folks on here refer to News Pigeon as a carpetbagger or stalker, but I remind everyone that she has been on Wolfeboro forums a lot longer than many folks on this forum. She was good friends with Lugnut, and also welcomed to subsequent forums by Matzoh Heppelwhite and myself. I do reside in Wolfeboro now and have been a part-timer for over 20 years, and News Pigeon is welcome here as far as I'm concerned. She is very intelligent and has more brains in her pinky than the one who refers to her as a stalker.
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News Buzzard wrote:You're welcome, my friend, and this forum doesn't really represent the good citizens of Wolfeboro! It is mostly just a group of frustrated malcontents, many of whom don't even live here.News Pigeon wrote:Thank you dear friend...at least a few people in NH aren't creepy assholes!News Buzzard wrote:I have never and would never say anything close to what that guy in Maine said about Obama, WHL, and you just write if off to the guy's right to free speech! (obviously because Obama was the subject of his wrath)
Some folks on here refer to News Pigeon as a carpetbagger or stalker, but I remind everyone that she has been on Wolfeboro forums a lot longer than many folks on this forum. She was good friends with Lugnut, and also welcomed to subsequent forums by Matzoh Heppelwhite and myself. I do reside in Wolfeboro now and have been a part-timer for over 20 years, and News Pigeon is welcome here as far as I'm concerned. She is very intelligent and has more brains in her pinky than the one who refers to her as a stalker.
Imagine that, how rich with irony!!!!
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Re: Bill O'Reilly joins progressives and O-bomb-ya in calling for war with Syria.
Really, did you get that little matter taken care of when I questioned it?News Hawk wrote:
I'd be happy to extend an invitation to our "resident" Bad-Mouthing—Carpet-Bagging, Stalker to determine the rental status of my Florida home.
BTW, carpet-bagger doesn't apply to me..I've been here a long time and I didn't arrive with much money way back then.
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Well???? Did you?News Pigeon wrote:Really, did you get that little matter taken care of when I questioned it?News Hawk wrote:
I'd be happy to extend an invitation to our "resident" Bad-Mouthing—Carpet-Bagging, Stalker to determine the rental status of my Florida home.
BTW, carpet-bagger doesn't apply to me..I've been here a long time and I didn't arrive with much money way back then.
Oh and shouldn't that be "alleged" stalker since it's only a fantasy on your part?
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What's it like to be miserable all of the timeNews Hawk wrote: "Dear Friends"—never met—associated only with their preference for Marxism!
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News Buzzard wrote:What's it like to be miserable all of the timeNews Hawk wrote: "Dear Friends"—never met—associated only with their preference for Marxism!
Logically, then, Marxists! would be the happiest of people...everywhere...!
Re: Bill O'Reilly joins progressives and O-bomb-ya in calling for war with Syria.
Cursive ...
If they don't teach the younger grades the 3 Rs just what do they teach them?
If they don't teach the younger grades the 3 Rs just what do they teach them?
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...long-hand, script, not printed...fshnski wrote: Cursive ...
Re: Bill O'Reilly joins progressives and O-bomb-ya in calling for war with Syria.
My good man. I can use a pen as well as anyone you know.
I thought cursive was how you used swear words in a sentence.
I thought cursive was how you used swear words in a sentence.
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Re: Bill O'Reilly joins progressives and O-bomb-ya in calling for war with Syria.
Is the U.S. the World’s Moral Authority as Obama Thinks?
Michael S. Rozeff at 19:14 pm EDT on August 30, 2013
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/is-the-u-s-the-worlds-moral-authority-as-obama-thinks/
Regarding Syria, Bill O’Reilly raised one of the central issues. He said “There’s got to be some moral authority in this world, and if you allow this kind of attack…” (He was interrupted at that point.) Let’s assume for the sake of argument that the Syrian government or some component of it made a chemical weapons attack. He then argues that the U.S. should punish Syria for this.
His reasoning is:
(A) that the world needs a moral authority,
(B) that authority should enforce moral behavior,
(C) the U.S. government can tell what is moral behavior and what is not,
(D) the U.S. government knows how to administer force so as to bring about moral behavior, and
(E) the U.S. is that moral authority and enforcer that the world needs. (He’s also arguing that when such immoral behavior as designated by the U.S. goes unpunished, that then there is a slippery slope in which such behavior spreads. In other words, unless the U.S. is the moral authority and enforcer, the world will go to rack and ruin. This side argument fallaciously assumes that there are no other factors causing moral behavior than U.S. force.)
Every part of his argument, which is also the Obama-Kerry argument, is either fallacious or questionable. The world does not need a single moral authority. Whenever a body of men claims a monopoly on morality and then attempts to enforce its single code on others, the result is usually warfare. A common complaint about jihadists or simply a government like the Taliban’s in Afghanistan is that they attempt to apply their moral code to any and all people under their control. This complaint applies equally to the U.S. government on a wide range of domestic social and economic issues. And it applies to the U.S. in its foreign relations with Syria if it attempts unilaterally to punish the use of chemical weapons.
When the world’s states want a single moral authority on some matter, they inch toward it by attempting to hammer out voluntary agreements among the states that now comprise the system. This system currently condemns any single state that dictates to others and that applies force to enforce its diktats. Accordingly, a U.S. bombing of Syria is an aggression because it cannot be justified by claiming defense or national interests. The U.S. cannot claim that it is acting for the world or the world’s good, surely not when it is being warned outright by other nations that the results may well be catastrophic. The U.S. cannot claim it is enforcing a treaty because Syria has not agreed to a chemical weapons treaty. Furthermore, the existing agreement among states did not include a provision that declares non-signers as outlaws and then authorizes the U.S. to be the policeman. The U.S. is acting unilaterally and outside the bounds of international law.
Even if the U.S. has accurately identified a world moral condemnation of a Syrian gas attack, it does not follow that bombing Syria is itself a moral method of altering Syrian behavior. It lacks any sort of attempt at due process. It is a rush to judgment. It is a rush to punishment without consideration of any alternative means of influencing the Syrian government.
Michael S. Rozeff at 19:14 pm EDT on August 30, 2013
http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/is-the-u-s-the-worlds-moral-authority-as-obama-thinks/
Regarding Syria, Bill O’Reilly raised one of the central issues. He said “There’s got to be some moral authority in this world, and if you allow this kind of attack…” (He was interrupted at that point.) Let’s assume for the sake of argument that the Syrian government or some component of it made a chemical weapons attack. He then argues that the U.S. should punish Syria for this.
His reasoning is:
(A) that the world needs a moral authority,
(B) that authority should enforce moral behavior,
(C) the U.S. government can tell what is moral behavior and what is not,
(D) the U.S. government knows how to administer force so as to bring about moral behavior, and
(E) the U.S. is that moral authority and enforcer that the world needs. (He’s also arguing that when such immoral behavior as designated by the U.S. goes unpunished, that then there is a slippery slope in which such behavior spreads. In other words, unless the U.S. is the moral authority and enforcer, the world will go to rack and ruin. This side argument fallaciously assumes that there are no other factors causing moral behavior than U.S. force.)
Every part of his argument, which is also the Obama-Kerry argument, is either fallacious or questionable. The world does not need a single moral authority. Whenever a body of men claims a monopoly on morality and then attempts to enforce its single code on others, the result is usually warfare. A common complaint about jihadists or simply a government like the Taliban’s in Afghanistan is that they attempt to apply their moral code to any and all people under their control. This complaint applies equally to the U.S. government on a wide range of domestic social and economic issues. And it applies to the U.S. in its foreign relations with Syria if it attempts unilaterally to punish the use of chemical weapons.
When the world’s states want a single moral authority on some matter, they inch toward it by attempting to hammer out voluntary agreements among the states that now comprise the system. This system currently condemns any single state that dictates to others and that applies force to enforce its diktats. Accordingly, a U.S. bombing of Syria is an aggression because it cannot be justified by claiming defense or national interests. The U.S. cannot claim that it is acting for the world or the world’s good, surely not when it is being warned outright by other nations that the results may well be catastrophic. The U.S. cannot claim it is enforcing a treaty because Syria has not agreed to a chemical weapons treaty. Furthermore, the existing agreement among states did not include a provision that declares non-signers as outlaws and then authorizes the U.S. to be the policeman. The U.S. is acting unilaterally and outside the bounds of international law.
Even if the U.S. has accurately identified a world moral condemnation of a Syrian gas attack, it does not follow that bombing Syria is itself a moral method of altering Syrian behavior. It lacks any sort of attempt at due process. It is a rush to judgment. It is a rush to punishment without consideration of any alternative means of influencing the Syrian government.
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Allow me to quote John F. Kerry:News Buzzard wrote:Nice way to talk about a truthful Vietnam Veteran who won a Bronze Star, Silver Star and three Purple Hearts.
____________________________________“...In our opinion, and from our experience, there is nothing inSouth VietnamSyria, nothing which could happen that realistically threatens the United States of America. And to attempt to justify the loss of one American life inSouth VietnamSyria by linking such loss to the preservation of freedom, which those misfits supposedly abuse, is to us the height of criminal hypocrisy, and it is that kind of hypocrisy which we feel has torn this country apart....”
....We are asking Americans to think about that because how do you ask a man to be the last man to die inSouth VietnamSyria. How do you ask a man to be the last man to die for a mistake? But we are trying to do that, and we are doing it with thousands of rationalizations...”
News Hawk wrote: Ya'know, Detroit might be better to your liking than Wolfeboro...
Your comment is disingenuous: you'd previously written about participating in how many Wolfeboro Selectmen Meetings?News Buzzard wrote:This is really great stuff. You can say where I live and not get your post deleted, but when I respond in kind I get my post deleted. Our moderator is most definitely biased!! In the end, maybe you should mind your own business!!
Re: Bill O'Reilly joins progressives and O-bomb-ya in calling for war with Syria.
Anti Federalist wrote:Oh, and let's not forget IRA terrorist supporting Peter King, who suggest congress be damned, the Imperial President should just act on his own.
Re: Bill O'Reilly joins progressives and O-bomb-ya in calling for war with Syria.
King's a Democrat in disguise.
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King is an Authoritarian Tyrant in disguise.fshnski wrote:King's a Democrat in disguise.
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Like most Kings...Anti Federalist wrote:King is an Authoritarian Tyrant in disguise.
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Obama's a professor with a lot of ideas!fshnski wrote:For all the world to hear ... I think obama is not the best thing for this country!
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