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Trust me—you have seen her—here.obervantone wrote:I know that in your mind all these things must make some kind of sense...but a Mexican pilot being fired? I personally know a pilot that was fired for letting John Kerry take the controls of a helicopter...both were Vietnam War vets and got to talking about the war and the pilot offered to let Kerry take the stick for a while...
Termination is the appropriate action for doing those kinds of things...and there is no prior photograph of a 14 year old girl that I can see.
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obervantone wrote:That must be the video of all the illegals from his derailed train heading to the tunnel to cross into the United States from Mexico!
You brought up Mexico from another thread.obervantone wrote:I know that in your mind all these things must make some kind of sense...but a Mexican pilot being fired?
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.News Hawk.obervantone wrote:
I know that in your mind all these things must make some kind of sense...but a Mexican pilot being fired? I personally know a pilot that was fired for letting John Kerry take the controls of a helicopter...both were Vietnam War vets and got to talking about the war and the pilot offered to let Kerry take the stick for a while...
Termination is the appropriate action for doing those kinds of things...and there is no prior photograph of a 14 year old girl that I can see
Trust me—you have seen her—here
TRUST YOU? I nearly peed myself laughing at that one!
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Now you are claiming to know who this is, and you know her well enough to know her age. Since you know these things you, no doubt, have reported this to ICE.
Tell me again, where did you take this photo and what is her name?
Tell me again, where did you take this photo and what is her name?
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If Socialized Medicine is so good, why is there presently a healthcare industry in the US for Canadians?
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Idaho A Medical Destination For Canadian Boomers
A hospital in North Idaho is marketing itself to Canadian tourists -- medical tourists, that is.
Most of the patients who come into Northwest Specialty Hospital in Post Falls, Idaho, are from the local area -- plus a few from Washington and Montana.
But hospital CEO Rick Rasmussen is thinking big -- Canada big. A little Canadian flag was recently added in the upper right of the hospital’s website.
Medical tourism boom
The link goes to a list of procedures with some of the longest wait times north of the border. Total knee, total hip, total shoulder, ACL repair -- all with the prices listed.
But it feels more like the listing for a vacation package than a medical procedure. And included in each deal: a stay at the nearby luxury Coeur d’Alene Resort.
“So the resort picks them up at the airport, them and their spouse, takes them to the hotel, puts them in a nice room overlooking the lake,” Rasmussen said.
And while the spouse enjoys some spa time, the patient gets a new knee.
“And they’re back out playing curling this winter rather than waiting, you know, two years,” Rasmussen said.
Northwest Specialty Hospital isn’t the only hospital near the border trying to get in on the multi-billion dollar international medical tourism business. A group in Washington is trying to make Seattle a destination.
Bypassing the waiting line
U.S. hospitals may not have the prices that places like Costa Rica, Thailand and Mexico can offer. But what they do have, at least in the eyes of Canadians, is speediness.
Valorie Crooks, a health geographer at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia, said Canadians are often heading across the border to avoid the wait lists of their national healthcare system. The demand for knee and hip procedures is especially high with Canada’s aging baby boom population.
But Crooks said these aren’t vacation get-aways. Even when Canadians are just crossing the 49th parallel, there are still risks.
“The practice of Canadians going to the United States for these sort of out-of-pocket payment health care arrangements raise some of the similar types of questions as Canadians going to any other country in the world, including sort of lesser developed nations,” Crooks said.
She said since patients are doing this outside their normal health care system, they have to pay -- and do all their own research. And Crooks said even when the procedure goes as planned, the patient’s recovery becomes the responsibility of the Canadian health care system.
“Physicians are left to sort of figure out if and how they’re going to follow up on orders from a jurisdiction that is not only not local but is coming from an entirely different country,” she said.
Things like physical therapy, medications and lab tests don’t always translate well across the border.
Still, many Canadian patients are up for it.
'I’d do it again in a heartbeat'
Trent Jeffries of Calgary went to Northwest Specialty Hospital a year ago -- even before they officially started the medical tourism program.
Jeffries had had knee problems for over a decade, but wouldn’t receive approval from his doctor in Canada for knee replacement until he was 55. So with a few years to go and the pain medications no longer working, Jeffries and his wife consulted with a orthopedic surgeon in north Idaho. And they made the seven-hour drive to Post Falls.
“Sat down -- I wasn’t in that chair 10 minutes and they called me in for pre-op there,” Jeffries said.
He added he’d never given a hospital a $14,000 check before. But he said it was worth it.
“You know what, to fix the problem, I’d do it again in a heartbeat,” Jeffries said. “Wouldn’t bother me a bit. I’ve said since I’ve come back, if I have any problems from here on, I won’t fool around here, I’ll get in my vehicle and drive south.”
NW News Network
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Ignoring the 14 year old girl issue...another statement of fact by you without evidence.
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She's been mentioned elsewhere.obervantone wrote:Ignoring the 14 year old girl issue...another statement of fact by you without evidence.
"Her name Gladys Chinoy, 14, waits along with more than 500 other migrants, after the freight train they were traveling on suffered a minor derailment. (Photo: Rebecca Blackwell, AP)"
The price of getting through Mexico and across the border into Texas could range from $1,000 to $10,000, depending on the client's nationality and ability to pay, says Janice Ayala, the special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations in San Antonio.
The fee is paid in bunches along the way, and
all the money goes to the drug cartels.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/27/immigrant-youth-border-cartels/11423695/
So Obama's unconstitutional actions redistribute OPM to Mexican drug cartels!
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Prior train derailments have cost the lives of "Dreamers" last year.
Obama has blood on his hands—but can't be bothered with such irrelevant details.
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Immigrants are exposed to many risks in their trek across Mexico. Traffickers charge them huge sums to help them cross the border and once in Mexico, gangs extort them for more money. They are often robbed, raped and killed by criminal groups.
Obama has blood on his hands—but can't be bothered with such irrelevant details.
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But if the US government is going to throw $3.7 billion at the symptoms, it should consider addressing the underlying disease of violence, poverty, and instability in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador—perhaps by upping the aid it sends to these three countries from the paltry $170.3 million scheduled for 2014.
http://qz.com/232178/the-3-7-billion-president-obama-is-seeking-wont-stop-the-surge-of-desperate-child-migrants/
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And Now, This...!
Like Stalin, Government information has been "scrubbed"...
If you want to view what was scrubbed:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130716130510/http://www.healthreform.gov/newsroom/keeping_the_health_plan_you_have.html
If you don't want to view it, Jonathon Gruber will thank you.
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The Obama administration’s original government website promoting Obamacare has been deleted.
On the last day of the Obamacare enrollment period, uncovered records reveal the deleted website assured Americans they could keep their existing health insurance plans.
HealthReform.gov was the first major online messaging project of Kathleen Sebelius’ Department of Health and Human Services. It was later replaced by the glitch-ridden Obamacare enrollment website Healthcare.gov.
more at Daily Caller
If you want to view what was scrubbed:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130716130510/http://www.healthreform.gov/newsroom/keeping_the_health_plan_you_have.html
If you don't want to view it, Jonathon Gruber will thank you.
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The thing is that there are fewer illegal immigrants making it the to the US today than in years past
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/11/18/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
Deportations are up and the number of border patrol agents has risen under President Obama....but hey we can ignore that.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/11/18/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/
Deportations are up and the number of border patrol agents has risen under President Obama....but hey we can ignore that.
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