Quote of the year

Speaking on the House floor Monday, Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-Okla.) delivered a brief review of President Barack Obama and his administration.

“The president’s Justice Department sold weapons to narco-terrorists south of our border, who killed one of our finest.

The president’s State Department lied about Benghazi with false information provided by the White House.

The president’s attorney general authorized spying on a Fox News reporter and his family for reporting on a North Korean nuclear test.

The president’s Justice Department confiscated phone records of the Associated Press because they reported on a thwarted terrorist attack.

The president’s Treasury Department uses the IRS to target political opposition.

The president’s Health and Human Services secretary pressures insurance companies she is supposed to regulate to promote ‘Obamacare,’ which is the same law she uses to force citizens to pay for abortion inducing drugs against their religious liberties.”

He then went on to say that the president’s dishonesty, incompetence, vengefulness and lack of moral compass lead many to suggest that he is not fit to lead. The only problem is that his vice president is equally unfit and even more embarrassing,”

Excellent summation of where America stands at present. The only thing he forgot was the DOJ did not pursue other leaks that were spun in favor of the administration.


Wait a minute there is someone knocking at my door…….Its the IRS and Homeland security, got to go!!!

The most disturbing part of Bridenstine's remarks was the presumption of guilt being spewed on the floor of the House of Representatives! Obama's biggest mistake was letting Bush and Cheney slide on a war crimes prosecutions. There are very few nice guys left in the Republican party.

Well said OL.

News Buzzard wrote:The most disturbing part of Bridenstine's remarks was the presumption of guilt being spewed on the floor of the House of Representatives! Obama's biggest mistake was letting Bush and Cheney slide on a war crimes prosecutions. There are very few nice guys left in the Republican party.

Please help me understand your point of view.

Even though Democrats and Republicans in Congress overwhelmingly agreed to go to Iraq and Afghanistan, it is entirely Bush’s fault because he was the President, AND he is guilty of war crimes.

YET…

Obama is not responsible for anything negative that happens under his administration because it is not his fault that his people (and administration) did unethical and illegal acts, and any investigations of scandals are simply a political witch hunt.

Just out of morbid curiosity…what war crimes charges did President George W. Bush and Vice President Cheney slide on? There needs to be investigation and formal charges for there to be a prosecution.

Well said again, OL. Sorry to be a copy cat, fsh.

We went into Iraq on a false premise, whether it was incompetent or doctored information, we'll never know, so I'm not buying this bipartisan nonsense you're trying to sell me for the invasion. President Bush, as our Commander in Chief, ordered the invasion of Iraq, so you can't squirm away from that one. We lost about 5,000 of our troops in this unnecessary war and over 100,000 innocent Iraqis lost their lives as a result of our lack of planning. What did we think was going to happen after we did a regime change? As far as war crimes goes, we can start with rendition and torture and then work our way into Iraq. The war in Iraq was the absolute worst mistake this country has made. I have just identified well over 100,000 unnecessary deaths and you folks mourn the 4 Americans who died in Benghazi. No political expedience there! You wonder why so many people in the Muslim world hate us, and the scary part is that so many of them are within our borders!

Sorry I'm spoiling this little right wing love fest you're having here, but there is no revisionist history with Iraq, or 9/11 for that matter.

You don't know that it was a false premise. It is pretty well known that Iraq did have WMDs but by the time we decide we are going to attack them and fool around, it is six months and you don't think they had time to hide them? I don't know why we took so long to go in there. If someone is attacking us in this country are we going to take six months to hit them back?

I think the left thinks it's OK to do bad things if somebody else did it before. They don't defend themselves, they redirect.

The left has turned the world upside down, fsh (as you know). Stupid is rewarded, smart is not, fighting to get ahead in life is selfish, taking welfare is good, criminals are good, victims are bad, winning is bad, losing is good. Well, you get the idea. I am sure someone can say it a heck of a lot better than that.

I read it loud and clear.

News Buzzard wrote:"...We went into Iraq on a false premise, whether it was incompetent or doctored information, we'll never know..."

Now that pressure-cookers have become WMDs, What Difference Does It Make?



Maybe the News Crows missed today's news in the Middle East:

"...The catalyst for the next great war will likely occur somewhere in the middle east. The Americans know this. As do the Russians and the Chinese. And as with the last two ‘great wars’, the groundwork is being laid well ahead of time. A large American military force disembarked Tuesday, June 4, at the southern Jordanian port of Aqaba – ready for deployment on the Syrian border..."

Also ready are the US Marines:

"...They are members of the 24th Marine Expeditionary Force carried aboard the USS Kearsage amphibious assault ship, which has been anchored off Israel..."

WHL wrote:You don't know that it was a false premise. It is pretty well known that Iraq did have WMDs but by the time we decide we are going to attack them and fool around, it is six months and you don't think they had time to hide them? I don't know why we took so long to go in there. If someone is attacking us in this country are we going to take six months to hit them back?

It has never been established that Iraq had WMDs!

WHL wrote:The left has turned the world upside down, fsh (as you know). Stupid is rewarded, smart is not, fighting to get ahead in life is selfish, taking welfare is good, criminals are good, victims are bad, winning is bad, losing is good. Well, you get the idea. I am sure someone can say it a heck of a lot better than that.

That's not very nice, especially for a moderator, or administrator, whatever your rank is!

WHL wrote:The left has turned the world upside down, fsh (as you know). Stupid is rewarded, smart is not, fighting to get ahead in life is selfish, taking welfare is good, criminals are good, victims are bad, winning is bad, losing is good. Well, you get the idea. I am sure someone can say it a heck of a lot better than that.

Even the News-Crows have noticed this Wolf/Gil forum has no difficulty in finding many new articles—nearly hourly!

Those articles, unfortunately, have the gloomy effects of showing us where the Left has turned the world upside down. Stupid is rewarded, smart is not, fighting to get ahead in life is selfish, taking welfare is good, criminals are good, victims are bad, winning is bad, losing is good.

Sadder still, is that "real news" comes from overseas, as our US media has become compliant with this Administration's intimidation tactics, and overlooks their corruption.

WHL wrote:The left has turned the world upside down, fsh (as you know). Stupid is rewarded, smart is not, fighting to get ahead in life is selfish, taking welfare is good, criminals are good, victims are bad, winning is bad, losing is good. Well, you get the idea. I am sure someone can say it a heck of a lot better than that.

That's how I see it too.

News Buzzard wrote:We went into Iraq on a false premise, whether it was incompetent or doctored information, we'll never know, so I'm not buying this bipartisan nonsense you're trying to sell me for the invasion. President Bush, as our Commander in Chief, ordered the invasion of Iraq, so you can't squirm away from that one.

In this country the President cannot declare war, only congress can. Nothing to squirm away from, that is a fact. Republicans and Democrats voted to invade. I have never heard anyone (till now) suggest the administration doctored the collective findings of the coalition’s intelligence community. That is one HUGE conspiracy theory.

In Benghazi, Obama and Clinton were either incompetent or doctored information. Heck maybe both. One thing for sure, Benghazi belongs to the Democrats and there is no way to blame Bush for it….yet

News Buzzard wrote:As far as war crimes goes, we can start with rendition and torture and then work our way into Iraq.

When the liberals came to power, they decided to redefine torture and change the definition to include water boarding. While their hatred for George W. Bush is clear, it’s kind of bizarre to think one can (in essence) pass a new law, then retroactively arrest everyone that broke the rule before became law.

In the IRS scandal, and in the Justice Department Scandal, it is clear the government acted in clear defiance of the Constitution. Yet some on the left think this just dandy. The Constitution IS the law of our government…incase you forgot.

News Buzzard wrote:You wonder why so many people in the Muslim world hate us, and the scary part is that so many of them are within our borders! .... but there is no revisionist history with Iraq, or 9/11 for that matter.

If memory serves, the vast majority of planning for the FIRST 9/11 attack came during the Clinton years. But how can that be? The Democrats love Muslims and they treat them with dignity and respect and the certainly didn’t bomb them and kill their women and children. Then why would they be planning to kill us? Could it be that some Muslims hate us because of who we are and not what we do?

But its easier to say its George Bush's fault

YEAH, it's all Bush's fault! And he MUST have done something to be responsible for Benghazi, too! He MUST have….. Or we could blame it on him anyway.

I love the standard Republican line. 9/11 happened 8 months into the George Bush debacle, and after over 60 warnings, and it's all Clinton's fault!

News Buzzard wrote:I love the standard Republican line. 9/11 happened 8 months into the George Bush debacle, and after over 60 warnings, and it's all Clinton's fault!

8 months, to much time passed to blame Clinton. 4.5 years and still blaming Bush.

Actually I don't blame Clinton or Bush for 9-11

Some more numbers

You have no problem with this administration over stepping its authority and infringing on #1, #2 and abusing #5.

You do realize the Republicans will take control again, are you willing to forgo your rights? Once you surrender power to the government, you will never get it back.

That's so true, Outer. You never get power back. And when government is so big, it is very hard to make it smaller. But it should be a LOT smaller.

Outerlimits wrote:He then went on to say that the president’s dishonesty, incompetence, vengefulness and lack of moral compass lead many to suggest that he is not fit to lead. The only problem is that his vice president is equally unfit and even more embarrassing,”

Excellent summation of where America stands at present. The only thing he forgot was the DOJ did not pursue other leaks that were spun in favor of the administration.
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Why does the discussion here return to Iraq and Saddam Hussein?

Saddam Hussein is dead, and we still have this administration's IRS wasting $4.5 million on a conference, and corrupting elections.

"Jay Leno told his studio audience the other night that President Obama should forget his plans to close the detention camp at Guantanamo Bay and instead close the IRS. The applause was instantaneous and the laughs were loud and genuine.

"Most ordinary Americans would have whooped and hollered in favor of Leno's idea long before they learned the IRS has been caught targeting conservative political groups and wasting millions on moronic employee-training conferences."

Outerlimits wrote:But its easier to say its George Bush's fault

You didn't know this is "Bush's Fourth Term of Office"?