Re: Obamacare Enrollment Crushes Goal

News Buzzard Sun May 04, 2014 10:08 am

WHL wrote:Trillion and trillions of dollars isn't excessive?? Going from nine to 17 trillion in just a couple of years isn't excessive????

You get to 17 trillion by giving the wealthy massive tax cuts at the same time you're spending trillions on wars. This year the deficit will be at least cut in half and will probably come in under $500 billion, so lets go get some of that money we gave away in the massive tax cuts. A good chunk of that change is buried overseas anyway. We're broke ? What a crock !!

**WHL** Sun May 04, 2014 1:42 pm

You sound like a broken record. Your answer to everything is the wars and massive tax cuts.

News Buzzard Sun May 04, 2014 2:45 pm

WHL wrote:You sound like a broken record. Your answer to everything is the wars and massive tax cuts.

There is no re-writing history, WHL. The fact is Bush was handed a balanced budget and he botched it. The Republicans then developed an instant case of amnesia and blamed Obama for everything. You would think they would man-up and admit to their errors, and try to be part of the fix with Obama instead of using him as the scapegoat. That's alright, the Republicans don't stand a chance against Hillary and they know it. That's why they keep up the nonsense with Benghazi, because they have nothing else. They're losing the argument on Obamacare and they're not doing anything about immigration or the minimum wage.

**WHL** Sun May 04, 2014 6:21 pm

LOL, who uses whom as the scapegoat???

News Hawk Sun May 04, 2014 6:59 pm

News Buzzard wrote:No one has said that health care is cheap, but it becomes a problem when a large percentage of our population cannot afford it.

Just 67 percent of Obamacare enrollees in federally-run marketplaces had paid their premiums by April 15, bringing the federally-run Obamacare enrollment tally to only 2.45 million, according to documents provided to the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

The Obama administration has been heavily promoting that 8 million Americans selected plans on Obamacare marketplaces, but has refused to release any data on how many purchased their plans.
http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/01/report-just-2-4-million-healthcare-gov-customers-paid-their-first-premium/

drunken

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News Buzzard Mon May 05, 2014 7:51 am

That 67% number has been debunked already. It's closer to 85%. Nice try, Obamacare wins !

News Hawk Mon May 05, 2014 12:36 pm

OK—using your numbers, who will be paying for those who signed up for their "FREE" Obamacare?

You and me?

Rolling Eyes

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News Buzzard Mon May 05, 2014 12:53 pm

News Hawk wrote:OK—using your numbers, who will be paying for those who signed up for their "FREE" Obamacare?

You and me?

That's right, we've been paying for them anyway so why not get them to contribute as much as possible themselves ? That's the idea of the mandate, which the Heritage Foundation and Mitt Romney once championed.

News Buzzard Tue May 06, 2014 6:56 am

The uninsured rate has dropped dramatically !

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/one-chart-shows-obamacare-working-133918815.html

News Buzzard Tue May 06, 2014 7:43 am

Support for Obamacare is slowly inching up !

http://news.yahoo.com/support-obamacare-edging-maybe-polling-results-show-180734705.html

It goes to show you that you can't always believe everything you see on the Anti-Obama Network, FOX News !

News Buzzard Tue May 06, 2014 8:01 am

The Heritage Foundation is 9 for 9 (wrong on every count )

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/05/05/3434130/heritage-obamacare-guide/

News Buzzard Sat May 10, 2014 11:16 am

The Republicans, as stubborn as they are, are finally starting to accept Obamacare:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/05/08/3435765/4-indicators-that-the-gops-obamacare-fever-has-broken/

They have nothing else so now they are dusting off a couple of right wing manufactured hoaxes, like Benghazi and the IRS scandal. The country would be a much better place if the Republicans spent as much time on improving things as they do on trashing Obama and Hillary. Rolling Eyes

News Hawk Sat May 10, 2014 8:29 pm

News Buzzard wrote:That's right, we've been paying for them anyway so why not get them to contribute as much as possible themselves ? That's the idea of the mandate, which the Heritage Foundation and Mitt Romney once championed.

"As much as possible"?

scratch

They didn't pay before--why should they now?

As I've said several times before, I have no problem with any of the 50 States enacting a healthcare law. State Government is closer to the People, and have the ability to enrich themselves any way they want.

Alaska pays every citizen with a State check.

Socialist-Vermont failed in their efforts. (Without Romney, I should note).

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**WHL** Sun May 11, 2014 12:18 pm

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By JENNIFER HABERKORN and KYLE CHENEY | 5/11/14 7:04 AM EDT Updated: 5/11/14 11:46 AM EDT

Nearly half a billion dollars in federal money has been spent developing four state Obamacare exchanges that are now in shambles — and the final price tag for salvaging them may go sharply higher.
Each of the states — Massachusetts, Oregon, Nevada and Maryland — embraced Obamacare, and each underperformed. All have come under scathing criticism and now face months of uncertainty as they rush to rebuild their systems or transition to the federal exchange.

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The federal government is caught between writing still more exorbitant checks to give them a second chance at creating viable exchanges of their own or, for a lesser although not inexpensive sum, adding still more states to HealthCare.gov. The federal system is already serving 36 states, far more than originally anticipated.
(Also on POLITICO: Massachusetts ditches RomneyCare health exchange)
As for the contractors involved, which have borne most of the blame for the exchange debacles, a few continue to insist that fixes are possible. Others are braced for possible legal action or waiting to hear if now-tainted contracts will be terminated.
The $474 million spent by these four states includes the cost that officials have publicly detailed to date. It climbs further if states like Minnesota and Hawaii, which have suffered similarly dysfunctional exchanges, are added.
Their totals are just a fraction of the $4.698 billion that the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation calculates the federal government has approved for states since 2011 to help them determine whether to create their own exchanges and to assist in doing so. Still, the amount of money that now appears wasted is prompting calls for far greater accountability.
(CARTOONS: Matt Wuerker on Obamacare)
Where has that funding left the four most troubled states?
Nevada, for one, is still trying to figure out its future. Oregon has decided to switch to HealthCare.gov. Maryland wants to fix its own exchange, maybe by incorporating what worked in Connecticut. Massachusetts actually wants to do both — build a portal from scratch while planning a move to the federal exchange as a backup.
Massachusetts’ dual-track approach could require more than $120 million on top of the $170 million it already has been awarded. That cost is nearly twice as much as if the state were to simply bail on its Connector, but officials seem to be banking in part on the Obama administration’s greater interest in helping the Massachusetts exchange — the once-pioneering model for Obamacare — survive.
Josh Archambault, a senior fellow with the right-leaning Foundation for Government Accountability, argued that the state’s efforts to salvage its exchange are just a face-saving exercise.
(Also on POLITICO: Full health care policy coverage)
“Instead of a quixotic sprint to rebuild the whole site in five months, state officials should instead pivot quickly to utilize the federal exchange, saving taxpayers tens of millions of dollars in the process,” he said.
State officials have warned that most of what is left of their initial federal award may be needed to end their contract with CGI, the vendor that built the Connector. They acknowledged Thursday they have no guarantees of additional federal funding.
“You have two choices,” Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) said last week. “One is to expend even greater amounts of money on something that had limited success thus far or going to the federal exchange. … There’s simplicity in that, and I think that may be where some within the commonwealth would like to go.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/obamacare-cost-failed-exchanges-106535.html#ixzz31QNXyamy

News Buzzard Sun May 11, 2014 12:54 pm

None of this means that Obamacare will be repealed. Software programs are difficult and costly to launch, and the affected states may be better off just going to the federal exchange. Millions of people have health insurance because of Obamacare and that's a good thing !

News Buzzard Tue May 13, 2014 3:17 pm

The GOP goes quiet on Obamacare ! Very Happy

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/205752-gop-goes-quiet-on-o-care

Now they're going to put all of their marbles on their Benghazi Hoax, supported by FOX News (or Koch Network Broadcasting)

News Hawk Tue May 13, 2014 9:06 pm

News Buzzard wrote:

Now they're going to put all of their marbles on their Benghazi Hoax, supported by FOX News [/b](or Koch Network Broadcasting)

With the use of Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals", aren't you putting yourself in the camp of "Radicals"?

drunken

News Hawk Fri May 16, 2014 9:02 am

Will Obamacare be as fully-functional to the citizenry as the VA is to our troops?

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News Buzzard Fri May 16, 2014 9:31 am

Indiana is heading toward accepting Medicaid expansion:

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/05/15/3438209/gop-governor-embrases-key-tenet-of-obamacare/

In the end common sense must override ideology! Very Happy

News Hawk Fri May 16, 2014 8:06 pm

News Buzzard wrote:Indiana is heading toward accepting Medicaid expansion:

In the end common sense must override ideology!

My "common sense" tells me there is "no-free-lunch".

“People will think this is wonderful, this is free insurance,” Orient said in an interview. “They don’t realize it’s really a loan, and is secured by any property they have.”
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2022469957_medicaidrecoveryxml.html

News Buzzard Fri May 16, 2014 9:29 pm

The glitch in Washington State can be repaired easily, and it most likely will be.

**WHL** Sat May 17, 2014 7:34 am

What did I see about Georgia though? THey rejected it or something. Can't remember exactly what. Will look it up later if I get a chance.

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