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Does anyone else think that the lake has been quieter than usual this year?
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'Family talked about that yesterday. This should be the season's peak, but a boat count would come up short compared to July.
We did have he usual scofflaw racing between a number of boats, and a large, white, and noisy Cris-Craft-type threw a huge wake which flooded my cockpit; still, it's better than capsizing. A bailing of about five minutes, and I was on my way again. Last week, I went to the NHMP web page. This year, they wrote, they only want "Emergency Calls". So, a drunk boater isn't a "Emergency"?
Today, I may be selling our largest boat—a 22-footer. A Rattlesnake islander wants it. His powerboat has broken down, so he may want a sailboat as a reliable transport.
We did have he usual scofflaw racing between a number of boats, and a large, white, and noisy Cris-Craft-type threw a huge wake which flooded my cockpit; still, it's better than capsizing. A bailing of about five minutes, and I was on my way again. Last week, I went to the NHMP web page. This year, they wrote, they only want "Emergency Calls". So, a drunk boater isn't a "Emergency"?
Today, I may be selling our largest boat—a 22-footer. A Rattlesnake islander wants it. His powerboat has broken down, so he may want a sailboat as a reliable transport.
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They wrote they only want emergency calls? Really? Interesting.
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Yup.
It's kind of like saying, "Don't call the NHMP unless there's blood in the water".
It's kind of like saying, "Don't call the NHMP unless there's blood in the water".
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I am very surprised at that.
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The site lists their business hours, but left out who to call on the most important days—on weekends.
The "Emergency Telephone Numbers" appear first: but the same numbers appear several lines lower, under the five lines that refer to the boating education address.
The office numbers look the same—as they have for years—but I've gotten an answering machine or the State Police instead.
As usual, the NHMP missed visiting our area during the time of the most violations this weekend.
After all the mayhem quieted down, we were visited by a juvenile Bald Eagle.
The "Emergency Telephone Numbers" appear first: but the same numbers appear several lines lower, under the five lines that refer to the boating education address.
The office numbers look the same—as they have for years—but I've gotten an answering machine or the State Police instead.
As usual, the NHMP missed visiting our area during the time of the most violations this weekend.
After all the mayhem quieted down, we were visited by a juvenile Bald Eagle.
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So why do they need a new building if they aren't staffed there??? (They don't answer the phone???)
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Sat was dead, perhaps the rain forecast scared some away. Sunday was as busy as I have seen- Greenes Basin through Graveyard, hole in wall, Broads Sally's Gut and back.
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red_hill wrote:Sat was dead, perhaps the rain forecast scared some away. Sunday was as busy as I have seen- Greenes Basin through Graveyard, hole in wall, Broads Sally's Gut and back.
I know, we couldn't figure out why!! Maybe that was it. Sunday was very busy!! Glad you noticed too!
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Once again our resident scofflaw is spreading inaccurate information.
Outside of "business hours" the phones are answered by the State Police since the Marine Patrol is now a division of the State Police!
Our resident scofflaw wrote:
The front page and contact page look like this: Show me where it suggests they only want "Emergency Calls" or that a suspected drunk boater is not an emergency!
The Contact Us page:
DO NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT JACKASS POSTS!
Outside of "business hours" the phones are answered by the State Police since the Marine Patrol is now a division of the State Police!
Our resident scofflaw wrote:
Yet ANOTHER UNTRUE STATEMENT!Last week, I went to the NHMP web page. This year, they wrote, they only want "Emergency Calls". So, a drunk boater isn't a "Emergency"?
The front page and contact page look like this: Show me where it suggests they only want "Emergency Calls" or that a suspected drunk boater is not an emergency!
Field Operations Bureau
Marine Patrol Unit
Marine Patrol's mission is to provide a safe, enjoyable, and environmentally responsible use for all of the State's public waters. Through its three sections, operations, aids to navigation, and the Boating Education Program, the Unit provides a comprehensive Marine Safety Program, places over 5,000 aids to navigation, and offers boating education for all recreation and commercial boat operators.
What We Do
New Hampshire state laws and Department of Safety Administrative Rules determine Marine Patrol functions and responsibilities. Generally, the Marine Patrol is responsible for the following fundamental activities:
•Enforcement of state boating laws and administrative rules.
• Enforcement of state criminal laws.
•Investigation of all boating accidents and drownings.
•Providing seacoast security.
•Installation, maintenance, and removal of state owned marine aids to navigation.
•Inspection of commercial vessels and testing of commercial operators.
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North Country River Patrol
Where We Operate
Marine Patrol has enforcement authority on all bodies of water having 10 acres or more, as well as rivers and tidal waters. Marine Patrol Headquarters is located in Gilford, although officers are assigned to work throughout the State.
When We Operate
Marine Patrol operates 365 days per year, with a primary operational period ranging from early May to the middle of October. Patrols are conducted in all weather and water conditions and at all times of the day and night depending upon enforcement requirements.
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Business Hours: 8:15 a.m. to 4:15 p.m., Monday through Friday
In an emergency situation, call (603) 293-2037 or (877) 642-9700.
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Boating Education Program
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Yes I have...even on weekends...and the phone was ALWAYS answered.
Ironic that you posted a screenshot of their contact webpage...show me again where it has anything that remotely justifies your latest BS claim:
Ironic that you posted a screenshot of their contact webpage...show me again where it has anything that remotely justifies your latest BS claim:
Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
Last week, I went to the NHMP web page. This year, they wrote, they only want "Emergency Calls". So, a drunk boater isn't a "Emergency"?
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obervantone wrote:Yes I have...even on weekends...and the phone was ALWAYS answered.
You've never received an answering machine instead—with the machine saying to "press #7"—which wasn't answered?
When I was once transferred to the NH State Police, their answer was they'd contact the NHMP during NHMP's working hours.
WHL, as to "quiet", crows have been mysteriously silent. We've seen Bald Eagles flying close every day for about ten days. Last yesterday afternoon, one soared over us for about five minutes. Bald Eagles (or the crows) may have a nest nearby. It's become Bald Eagle territory this season.
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It has. We have seen them a lot too. It seemed like usually they disappear in the middle of the summer but not this year. We are probably getting overrun with them.
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Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
You've never received an answering machine instead—with the machine saying to "press #7"—which wasn't answered?
No, NEVER. The phone is answered by the NH State Police outside of business hours. I have never gotten an answer machine. Of course given your propensity to call when you see someone enjoying themselves meanwhile issue false distress calls to boaters to try to move get them off "your" lake, I would suspect that they recognize your number and let it go into voice mail Hell.
I notice that you still have not addressed where on the Marine Patrol website you claim that you got this piece of bull shit from, but why would you?...you just make up shit and then when you are called on it you ignore it:
Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
Last week, I went to the NHMP web page. This year, they wrote, they only want "Emergency Calls". So, a drunk boater isn't a "Emergency"?
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obervantone wrote:Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
You've never received an answering machine instead—with the machine saying to "press #7"—which wasn't answered?
No, NEVER. The phone is answered by the NH State Police outside of business hours. I have never gotten an answer machine. Of course given your propensity to call when you see someone enjoying themselves meanwhile issue false distress calls to boaters to try to move get them off "your" lake, I would suspect that they recognize your number and let it go into voice mail Hell.
Your suspicions could be true, except that I use my cellphone as well. Why would you disapprove of calling offenses into the NHMP?
Your "positive experience" doesn't cancel the negative experience(s) of others.
It wasn't always that way: most of the time, the NHMP would arrive an hour late. Now I wait until both offender and NHMP are in view and inform the dispatcher of this fact.
I'll eventually e-mail NHMP my observations of our "serial Donzi offender".
obervantone wrote:I notice that you still have not addressed where on the Marine Patrol website you claim that you got this piece of bull shit from, but why would you?...you just make up shit and then when you are called on it you ignore it:Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
Last week, I went to the NHMP web page. This year, they wrote, they only want "Emergency Calls". So, a drunk boater isn't a "Emergency"?
Their "Emergency Numbers" are the same as their "regular numbers"—and the same as they've always been; however, on their web page, they'd chosen to put their "Emergency Numbers" in bold print.
Again, why would you disapprove of calling offenses or clear boating hazards into the NHMP?
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So that lead you to the LEAPING CONCLUSION:Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
Their "Emergency Numbers" are the same as their "regular numbers"—and the same as they've always been; however, on their web page, they'd chosen to put their "Emergency Numbers" in bold print.
Bolding their phone number justifies a bullshit statement/conclusion like the one you posted above?Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
Last week, I went to the NHMP web page. This year, they wrote, they only want "Emergency Calls". So, a drunk boater isn't a "Emergency"?
I don't disapprove of that, but you have demonstrated time and time again that you believe lawful recreational boating and having a good time with the family is a crime, even while you initiate hoax distress signals in an attempt to get boaters away from your "private" lake and ignore legitimate signals for help by boaters.our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News-Hawk wrote:
Again, why would you disapprove of calling offenses or clear boating hazards into the NHMP?
BTW, did you know that initiating a hoax distress signal is both a State and Federal crime?
You are pathetic.
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obervantone wrote:I don't disapprove of that, but you have demonstrated time and time again that you believe lawful recreational boating and having a good time with the family is a crime..."Again, why would you disapprove of calling offenses or clear boating hazards into the NHMP?
For drinking while boating, I'll refer you to the page in "The New Hampshire Guide to Boating".
I don't make up laws.
obervantone wrote:"...you initiate hoax distress signals in an attempt to get boaters away from your "private" lake and ignore legitimate signals for help by boaters.
BTW, did you know that initiating a hoax distress signal is both a State and Federal crime?
You are pathetic.
Who's pathetic?
You're the only one who's labeled my signal, "I am reversing" a hoax (and a distress signal).
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WHL wrote:Does anyone else think that the lake has been quieter than usual this year?
It's going to get a lot quieter, given the news of thunderstorms and rains for the next several days.
Today, there was a very strong breeze, with strong gusts. In spite of that, I haven't seen so many sailboats out on a Thursday afternoon. (Three Sunfish, one Able cruiser, one Pierson cruiser, one "J" dinghy, one J-24, one cruiser I couldn't identify, and one yellow sailboat that kept capsizing, but it did appear like a new boat to the skipper).
One young fella was madly paddling his SUP against the wind, and a rescue outboard came to tow him back—about a mile. (But I'm not counting him as a sailor yet).
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And the LIES begin...However THIS is what you wrote:Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
For drinking while boating, I'll refer you to the page in "The New Hampshire Guide to Boating".
Regarding your use of a distress signal to move a boater away from your "private" lake.Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
Last week, I went to the NHMP web page. This year, they wrote, they only want "Emergency Calls". So, a drunk boater isn't a "Emergency"?
No, you did that yourself.Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawk wrote:
You're the only one who's labeled my signal, "I am reversing" a hoax (and a distress signal).
Of course you are now changing what you claim is the meaning of the danger signalRe: "Visitor" Invades Quiet Winter Harbor...
Post News Hawk on Tue Jul 21, 2015 5:49 pm
You might have been able to hear a "surfer-boat" out in front of my place this afternoon. The only time the "music" got turned off was to converse with the surfer!
Out of sight, I picked that one prize moment to give five long blasts from my boat horn. They got the message, and moved further down the harbor.
what you said then:
What you say now:News Hawk wrote:
Since I was on land at the time, it signifies "I am aground".
You will note that 5 blasts of the horn is a distress signal warning the boater that there is danger in the area...which is exactly what you intended...not that you were aground or reversing your engines...which were both false since you were on land and not in your boat."I am reversing"
No one was in danger, no one was aground and you were not reversing your engine yet you signaled danger! The very definition of a hoax!
You knew exactly what you were doing and are now lying again.
http://www.boatdocking.com/other/Sounds.html
You are pathetic and hopefully one day a Marine Patrol officer, or better yet Coast Guard Officer will witness this and you will wind up in prison!
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Obervantone, The Drama Queen?
From The Hull Truth. The below situation evolved from a woman with a life-threatening health problem. The atmosphere at a Columbus Day Regatta was "Party-Time", and many horn blasts were in play when a woman would remove the top of her bikini.
The surfing party in Winter Harbor could have cared less if there was an excess of "Rap" noise coming from their boat. "Party-Time" knows no boundaries...
A "Distress" signal, or "Navigation" signal?
As in the above Columbus Day Regatta scenario, issuing too much noise will prevent or obscure a rescue attempt. Noise on the water is—in itself—a danger to life and limb. It's really a shame the surfers only moved their mobile hazard a mile away. (Though some would say "They were just having fun on the water").
One's exhaust noise can obscure navigational signals—and there are many local examples of excessive exhaust pipe noise.
My "Navigational Signal" got them to move away.
Even our local mail boat uses five horn blasts!
(Or three ("reversing"), or four, or two, or one, depending on the lack of recipients at a dock).
That mail boat operator should be arrested by the NHMP or (even better) the Coast Guard.
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The surfing party in Winter Harbor could have cared less if there was an excess of "Rap" noise coming from their boat. "Party-Time" knows no boundaries...
obervantone wrote:
"You will note that 5 blasts of the horn is a distress signal warning the boater that there is danger in the area..."
A "Distress" signal, or "Navigation" signal?
As in the above Columbus Day Regatta scenario, issuing too much noise will prevent or obscure a rescue attempt. Noise on the water is—in itself—a danger to life and limb. It's really a shame the surfers only moved their mobile hazard a mile away. (Though some would say "They were just having fun on the water").
One's exhaust noise can obscure navigational signals—and there are many local examples of excessive exhaust pipe noise.
My "Navigational Signal" got them to move away.
Even our local mail boat uses five horn blasts!
(Or three ("reversing"), or four, or two, or one, depending on the lack of recipients at a dock).
That mail boat operator should be arrested by the NHMP or (even better) the Coast Guard.
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And the LIES continues
You were in the WRONG!
There was NO DANGER to the wake boat...YOU used your boat horn, while on land, to signal that the wake boat was IN DANGER in order to get them away from your "private" lake! PERIOD
And then you had the audacity to BRAG ABOUT IT!
At some point in the future someone will be using that signal in a dangerous situation and most will think, "Oh, that's just that cranky jackass pissed off that someone is near his "private" water again" and it could end badly.
Believe me, if I am in Winter Harbor and see or hear a distress call, I will be contacting the Marine Patrol to investigate....you can try to lie your way out of that one in court!
Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawks argument in court:
"But Your Honor....I only issued that Mayday call because I thought it was May First and I was wishing everyone a good day"
Quoting an internet forum vs Chapman's....LAME.
You are pathetic!
There was NO DANGER to the wake boat...YOU used your boat horn, while on land, to signal that the wake boat was IN DANGER in order to get them away from your "private" lake! PERIOD
And then you had the audacity to BRAG ABOUT IT!
At some point in the future someone will be using that signal in a dangerous situation and most will think, "Oh, that's just that cranky jackass pissed off that someone is near his "private" water again" and it could end badly.
Believe me, if I am in Winter Harbor and see or hear a distress call, I will be contacting the Marine Patrol to investigate....you can try to lie your way out of that one in court!
Our resident scofflaw It's-Not-News Hawks argument in court:
"But Your Honor....I only issued that Mayday call because I thought it was May First and I was wishing everyone a good day"
Quoting an internet forum vs Chapman's....LAME.
You are pathetic!
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OB, you sound like such an angry person. Why don't you lighten up? Why do you let NH get under your skin?
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I take fake calls for help, ignoring boaters in need and using danger signals when no one is in danger VERY SERIOUSLY.
Lighten up?
Sure...what if you are the one hurt or worse because this jackass has done it so many times that distress signals are ignored in Winter Harbor....everyone figuring it's "HIM AGAIN".
No, these are very serious violations and need to be addressed as such.
Lighten up?
Sure...what if you are the one hurt or worse because this jackass has done it so many times that distress signals are ignored in Winter Harbor....everyone figuring it's "HIM AGAIN".
No, these are very serious violations and need to be addressed as such.
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But you never write on here when you are not upset. You don't sound angry just about this particular subject but always.
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