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Post  WHL Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:57 am

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Post  News Hawk Thu Jun 06, 2013 8:52 am

Oh Yeah?

I bet you haven't read it!

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Post  WHL Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:26 pm

You would win that bet! I have read parts of it but not the whole thing.
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:34 pm

It's not time to trash Obamacare, and it wouldn't happen until at least 2017. By then most of the states will have accepted the Medicaid offer from the federal government and there will be less opposition to it. It's really a shame that New Hampshire is bucking it. We would have a lot more people covered, and maybe our hospitals will be a little better off for it. Fifty cents on the dollar from the state is not a good formula for the hospitals who have a big clientele of Medicaid patients.
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:02 pm

Governor Brewer of Arizona sees the practicality of accepting the Medicaid expansion. It will bring back coverage to 240,000 people who lost out on it and 57,000 new people:

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/arizona-jan-brewer-medicaid-obamacare-92304.html
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Post  News Hawk Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:35 pm

News Buzzard wrote:"...It's not time to trash Obamacare, and it wouldn't happen until at least 2017..."
'Curious why the Dims in Congress are trashing Obamacare today?
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Jun 06, 2013 2:46 pm

News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:"...It's not time to trash Obamacare, and it wouldn't happen until at least 2017..."
'Curious why the Dims in Congress are trashing Obamacare today?

It's very frustrating when they can't get any help from the other side. It is becoming more and more evident that this thing can work really well and cover millions of more people, but the Republicans repeatedly vote for repeal and defunding. They don't come much more conservative than Governor Brewer, but she puts reality and her citizens before ideology.
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Post  WHL Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:46 pm

The Dems are crossing over because the election is coming up and they are worried they will get voted out if they stand behind Obamacare which is unpopular. It is not because they "can't get any help from the other side."
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Post  News Hawk Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:28 pm

News Buzzard wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:"...It's not time to trash Obamacare, and it wouldn't happen until at least 2017..."
'Curious why the Dims in Congress are trashing Obamacare today?

It's very frustrating when they can't get any help from the other side.

Because "the Other Side of The Aisle" forecast what was going to happen?

scratch

You remember Senator Max Baucus, (Dem), the major force for ObamaCare?

"Remember Republicans warning that forcing working Americans to pay for the 30 million leeches who pay nothing for their health care under Medicaid would drive the premiums of working Americans higher?

Second Big Problem! The IRS computers won't mate up with the Health Care Exchange computers because the IRS computer system is obsolete! So when workers try to sign up for Obamacare the IRS and the Health Exchanges are telling applicants to go to pound sand!

And so fireworks really broke out at the Finance Committee hearings on Obamacare yesterday afternoon. Senator Max Baucus, (Dem), said "how could this happen? I'm hearing from my constituents that they and their families have been left out in the cold and are without health care because the Exchanges are not accepting them!". Quote from Senator Bill Nelson, (Dem), Florida "my constituents are not going to be happy to hear this administration failed to implement the necessary changes to accommodate health care applicants someone has to pay for this!"

Similar outrage was professed by Senator Ron Wyden (Dem) from Oregon.

Sadly, Obama Program Director for the Health care Affordability Act was on hand to lend testimony. All he could seem to do was sympathize with his Democratic buddies, saying that maybe the problems could be ironed out by the end of 2014 but could offer no ideas about how that could be done.

An Update! This morning a Harvard economics professor came on CNBC and announced that, according to a federal study his group just completed, the Health and Human Services Secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, is going to be forced to come back to this same committee, hat in hand, and request $700 billion dollars more be allocated to Obamacare just to pay for those automatically covered under current federal programs.

Also, sadly, the Wall Street Journal reported that, in addition to the 30 million Americans not currently covered under Obamacare, we can expect tens of millions more who will be left in the "no health care Twilight Zone" ; those who were doing just fine with their employee health care plan until Obamacare was implemented this year. And many of those who were working 40 hour weeks will find themselves deemed "part time employees" working less than 30 hours per week and unable to afford Obama's premiums even if they could get through the application process.

And, as usual, while the working poor and the rapidly declining middle class will be out in the cold without any health care, the Medicaid/Welfare leeches have no worry. They are covered by that $700 billion dollar pot of gold that Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services will be demanding from Congress soon
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Post  WHL Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:31 pm

Was that yesterday and today, NH?
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Post  fshnski Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:39 pm

News Buzzard wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:"...It's not time to trash Obamacare, and it wouldn't happen until at least 2017..."
'Curious why the Dims in Congress are trashing Obamacare today?

It's very frustrating when they can't get any help from the other side. It is becoming more and more evident that this thing can work really well and cover millions of more people, but the Republicans repeatedly vote for repeal and defunding. They don't come much more conservative than Governor Brewer, but she puts reality and her citizens before ideology.

You can't get help from the other side because they don't think it is the right thing for our country.
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Post  News Buzzard Sat Jun 08, 2013 9:08 pm

News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:"...It's not time to trash Obamacare, and it wouldn't happen until at least 2017..."
'Curious why the Dims in Congress are trashing Obamacare today?

It's very frustrating when they can't get any help from the other side.

Because "the Other Side of The Aisle" forecast what was going to happen?

scratch

You remember Senator Max Baucus, (Dem), the major force for ObamaCare?

"Remember Republicans warning that forcing working Americans to pay for the 30 million leeches who pay nothing for their health care under Medicaid would drive the premiums of working Americans higher?

Second Big Problem! The IRS computers won't mate up with the Health Care Exchange computers because the IRS computer system is obsolete! So when workers try to sign up for Obamacare the IRS and the Health Exchanges are telling applicants to go to pound sand!

And so fireworks really broke out at the Finance Committee hearings on Obamacare yesterday afternoon. Senator Max Baucus, (Dem), said "how could this happen? I'm hearing from my constituents that they and their families have been left out in the cold and are without health care because the Exchanges are not accepting them!". Quote from Senator Bill Nelson, (Dem), Florida "my constituents are not going to be happy to hear this administration failed to implement the necessary changes to accommodate health care applicants someone has to pay for this!"

Similar outrage was professed by Senator Ron Wyden (Dem) from Oregon.

Sadly, Obama Program Director for the Health care Affordability Act was on hand to lend testimony. All he could seem to do was sympathize with his Democratic buddies, saying that maybe the problems could be ironed out by the end of 2014 but could offer no ideas about how that could be done.

An Update! This morning a Harvard economics professor came on CNBC and announced that, according to a federal study his group just completed, the Health and Human Services Secretary, Kathleen Sebelius, is going to be forced to come back to this same committee, hat in hand, and request $700 billion dollars more be allocated to Obamacare just to pay for those automatically covered under current federal programs.

Also, sadly, the Wall Street Journal reported that, in addition to the 30 million Americans not currently covered under Obamacare, we can expect tens of millions more who will be left in the "no health care Twilight Zone" ; those who were doing just fine with their employee health care plan until Obamacare was implemented this year. And many of those who were working 40 hour weeks will find themselves deemed "part time employees" working less than 30 hours per week and unable to afford Obama's premiums even if they could get through the application process.

And, as usual, while the working poor and the rapidly declining middle class will be out in the cold without any health care, the Medicaid/Welfare leeches have no worry. They are covered by that $700 billion dollar pot of gold that Kathleen Sebelius, Secretary of Health and Human Services will be demanding from Congress soon

And this quote is from where?

The Republicans have pulled the goalie and are making the final, desperate push to destroy Obamacare, but Obama scores an empty-net goal on January 1st!! afro
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Post  News Hawk Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:44 am

News Buzzard wrote:
And this quote is from where?

Senator Max Baucus, (Dem), Senator Bill Nelson, (Dem), Senator Ron Wyden (Dem), Wall Street Journal, CNBC, and C-Span are quoted.


News Buzzard wrote:
The Republicans have pulled the goalie and are making the final, desperate push to destroy Obamacare, but Obama scores an empty-net goal on January 1st!! rendeer

ALL Hail The Won!

cheers

Get your elective surgeries scheduled before January 1st!!

...but...but...

"OLYMPIA – Pickets will replace performing the rounds at Olympia’s St. Peter Hospital tomorrow.

500 members of the Service Employees International Union, or SEIU, will walk off the job tomorrow in what it says is a case of health care workers striking over the rising cost of health care.

“My husband has cystic fibrosis,” says Certified Nursing Assistant Abbey Bruce, who says his medication used to be covered by the Providence Plan. But now, “we’re up to out of pocket, $400 per month, for his medications he needs baseline to stay alive. So I’ve had to take a second job,” says Bruce.

The union says would be the first strike for Western Washington hospital employees since 2004.

“We’re going to be fully staffed,” says Susan Meenk, VP for Human Resources at Providence St. Peter. “We do have some replacement workers coming in,” she added, “from other Providence hospitals, and temporary workers.”

She admits the deductible has gone up for families..."
—NBC News
Temporary workers?

"Employment is up!"

sunny
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Post  WHL Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:20 am

fshnski wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:"...It's not time to trash Obamacare, and it wouldn't happen until at least 2017..."
'Curious why the Dims in Congress are trashing Obamacare today?

It's very frustrating when they can't get any help from the other side. It is becoming more and more evident that this thing can work really well and cover millions of more people, but the Republicans repeatedly vote for repeal and defunding. They don't come much more conservative than Governor Brewer, but she puts reality and her citizens before ideology.

You can't get help from the other side because they don't think it is the right thing for our country.

Right, fsh. The Republicans could complain that THEY don't get any help from the other side.
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Post  News Buzzard Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:13 am

You think the Democrats should help the Republicans repeal Obamacare? On which planet do you think that would happen? lol!
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Post  News Hawk Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:19 am

News Buzzard wrote:You think the Democrats should help the Republicans repeal Obamacare? On which planet do you think that would happen? clown

Today, would a switch-over of only two Democrats repeal ObamaCare?

scratch

I've just shown you three...

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Post  fshnski Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:45 am

News Buzzard wrote:You think the Democrats should help the Republicans repeal Obamacare? On which planet do you think that would happen? lol!

On earth. I hope.
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Post  News Buzzard Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:45 am

Do you have a two thirds override vote in both chambers? This kind of talk is as silly as impeachment! All of this chatter is just the Republican's last ditch effort to scuttle Obamacare before it kicks in. God forbid we should be the last industrialized nation on the planet to have national health care! Rolling Eyes
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Post  fshnski Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:47 am

Please disregard ... I posted out of context.


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Post  WHL Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:16 am

I wondered how Obamacare came into this????? Surprised But the Dems won't help the Reps. with anything.
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Post  News Hawk Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:36 am

News Buzzard wrote:
News Hawk wrote:
News Buzzard wrote:"...It's not time to trash Obamacare, and it wouldn't happen until at least 2017..."

'Curious why the Dims in Congress are trashing Obamacare today?

It's very frustrating when they can't get any help from the other side. It is becoming more and more evident that this thing can work really well and cover millions of more people, but the Republicans repeatedly vote for repeal and defunding. They don't come much more conservative than Governor Brewer, but she puts reality and her citizens before ideology.

  
Governor Brewer may have received the latest IRS notice that she can afford ObamaCare:
 
___________________________________________________________
 
 
"We can see from your Amazon orders and credit card records that you've spent a lot on DVD's and eating out.
 
Your Google searches suggest that you're planning to go on vacation to Las Vegas.
 
Why do you have so many phone calls to Zales Jewelery? We hope you're not planning of buying something expensive.
 
Also, from the emails you sent to your mother, we're finding proof that you'll have to refund us $1000 on falsely claimed deductions that you claimed on your last tax return.
 
Have a Nice Day! Your Friendly IRS Agent


PS. Did you know that your husband spends a lot of time online searching for hot Asian women?
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undefined wrote:Dozens of lawmakers and aides are so afraid that their health insurance premiums will skyrocket next year thanks to Obamacare that they are thinking about retiring early or just quitting...
 
"The fear: Government-subsidized premiums will disappear at the end of the year under a provision in the health care law that nudges aides and lawmakers onto the government health care exchanges, which could make their benefits exorbitantly expensive... If the issue isn’t resolved, and massive numbers of lawmakers and aides bolt, many on Capitol Hill fear it could lead to a brain drain just as Congress tackles a slew of issues."


"If not, I think we should begin an immediate amicus brief to say, ‘Listen this is simply not fair to these employees,’” Larson told POLITICO. “They are federal employees."



They passed this law but the speaker is appalled that “it’s not fair” it will negatively impact “federal employees.” What category does that put everyone else in who are not the protected class of “federal employees.”
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Post  News Hawk Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:27 am

News Buzzard wrote:God forbid we should be the last industrialized nation on the planet to have national health care! Rolling Eyes

God forbid we should be the least industrialized nation on the planet to have national health care! Rolling Eyes

There, fixed it for ya.

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Post  News Buzzard Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:53 am

Jimmy Olsen, cub reporter, is now trying his hand at editing! affraid
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Post  News Buzzard Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:55 pm

The Arizona House approved a budget that includes Medicaid expansion for Obamacare:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/articles/20130613house-approves-medicaid-expansion-billion-budget.html?nclick_check=1
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