Shutdown bad for obama.

I wonder if the average American would think that coal is the main contributor to greenhouse gasses?

Achigan wrote:

fshnski wrote:I too believe that there is no way we (humans) cannot be having a negative effect on our worlds atmosphere. But why harm America's economy for feel good policies that get negated by China and India?

There are a lot of things that China and India do that we don't, that doesn't mean that we should do it.  We have to lead by example and maybe in time other countries will do the same.

Maybe. But that is a very big maybe. We can't have energy policies that weaken us as a nation. Nor should we have energy policies that make us dependent on other nations.

fshnski wrote:I wonder if the average American would think that coal is the main contributor to greenhouse gasses?

...or that the General Motors Volt depends on coal for battery-charging...?

THat's the joke of these electric cars. The electricity has to be generated to charge the batteries…...

"Passing appropriations bills to fund the NIH, veterans' benefits, and other programs is "actually a much better way to run government," said Paul, "because right now you're sticking everything into one bill, and that's why the leverage of shutting the government down occurs. But if you did things appropriately and you passed appropriation bills one at a time, no one would be able to shut down government ever"

WHL wrote:THat's the joke of these electric cars.  The electricity has to be generated to charge the batteries…...

Did you know that while driving the electric car it charges the batteries? Another good feature is when you step on the breaks it also charges the batteries.

When the car is going down hill it charges the batteries. You don't have to plug it in to charge it. What it does is use less gas which saves you money and the environment.

Google the Ford electric car and they will tell you all about it. It's really neat.

I don't believe that Casy. If that is true, why do they only go 40 miles or so before they need to be recharged? Why do we need recharging stations, if they charge themselves. If it really recharged itself, why would it even need gas at all??

Casy wrote:

WHL wrote:THat's the joke of these electric cars.  The electricity has to be generated to charge the batteries…...

Did you know that while driving the electric car it charges depletes the batteries?

Another good feature is when you step on the breaks brakes it also charges the batteries.

When the car is going down hill [and not under power] it charges the batteries.  You don't have to plug it in to charge it.  

You WILL!

Casy wrote:What it does is use less gas which saves you money and the environment.[/size]

• It saves you the owners some money, but we all pay for the coal that provides the electricity—where it's needed at home.

• The environment isn't helped by the rare-earth elements that are necessary to make the batteries.

• China has a lock on much of it.

• The insurance we all pay for has been responsible for Toyota's saying, "We have never had to replace a battery"

(Toyota replaces the batteries after any fender-bender—and you're paying for it!)

What?!

fshnski wrote:What?!

Yes, it's a scam against our insurance premiums (less the fender-benderer's deductible).

'Course, in New Hampshire, auto insurance is not required.

The National Park Service is allowing an immigration reform rally to go on as planned Tuesday on the National Mall, even though it’s closed due to the federal shutdown.

Susana Flores, a spokesperson for the “Camino Americano: March for Immigration Reform,” confirmed that the Park Service will allow the event to take place under the group’s rights granted by the First Amendment, the Washington Examiner reported.

Several members of Congress are expected to attend the rally, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, and Sen. Robert Menendez, New Jersey Democrat.


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fshnski wrote:Several members of Congress are expected to attend the rally, including House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, California Democrat, and Sen. Robert Menendez, New Jersey Democrat.

We know about Pelosi, but isn't Sen. Robert Menendez, New Jersey Democrat—a crook?

fshnski wrote:The National Park Service is allowing an immigration reform rally to go on as planned Tuesday on the National Mall, even though it’s closed due to the federal shutdown.

"Some are more important than others."

 

Anti Federalist wrote:

News Buzzard wrote:

Anti Federalist wrote:A budget was passed that de-funds (repeals) the act. Now Obama can sign it or not.

You should check your facts. No budget has been passed by the Congress! Furthermore, why would Obama sign off on doing away with his historic signature legislation? As I have said, elections have consequences, and Obama has the discretion to veto legislation, whether you like it or not.

As far as taxation being the true extortion, who do you think is going to pay the 3/4 of a trillion dollars in defense spending to protect your sorry ass? If you don't like the way things are run in this country feel free to drive 3 hours north to Canada!!

LOL @ a prog defending military spending.

NB can be very helpful in understanding why we are so wrong.

Anti Federalist wrote:Your childish outburst does not change the fact that taxation is armed robbery, or extortion.

It is truly sad that Canada will print the bulk of truthfulness than the majority of the US media, and that Britain gets all its "Obama" news correctly done.

At least five families of U.S. military members killed during in Afghanistan over the weekend were given a double-whammy by federal officials: Not only have your loved ones died, but due to the government shutdown, you won’t receive a death benefit.

The benefit is $100,000 and is wired to family members of the killed military member within 36 hours of the death. The so-called “death gratuity” is aimed at paying for funeral costs and to help with those living expenses normally covered by the soldier’s paycheck.

They serve as a transition pay benefit until the military’s survivor benefits begin.

The $100,000 also helps military families fly to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, while the coffins carrying their loved ones are being unloaded

The Pentagon revealed the elimination of funeral pay, along with other impacts of the shutdown, in a press release.

“The department does not currently have the authority to pay death gratuities for the survivors of service members killed in action – typically a cash payment of $100,000 paid within three days of the death of a service member,” the release read.

“Secretary [of Defense Chuck] Hagel assured the service leaders that he would work closely with them to address these challenges, and support the service members and families impacted by these disruptions,” it continued.

A senior military official told NBC’s “Today” that he was “disgusted” by the scenario, but hopes a resolution might be reached to resume the benefit this week.


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Seventy percent of the military votes "the wrong way", so they are "expendable" in more than one way.

As thousands of federal employees wait for their furloughs to be lifted, thousands of truckers plan to descend on Washington on Friday morning in an effort to shut it down further by not hauling freight for a whole weekend and causing a massive traffic jam.

Earl Conlon, a Georgia trucker who is handling logistics for Truckers Ride for the Constitution, told U.S. News that truckers will circle I-495 — the Capital Beltway — “three lanes deep” to express disapproval of Washington’s leadership.

A list addressing “corruption against our Constitution” will be delivered to lawmakers before the ride, event organizer Zeeda Andrews told the magazine.

Mr. Conlon added that the truckers circling the Beltway will stay at 55 mph and will keep the left lane open for emergency vehicles, but “everybody that doesn’t have a supporter sticker on their window, good luck: Nobody in, nobody out.”

Drivers who want to get past the convoy must show their support with signs or writing on their cars.


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Angry and outraged military veterans are heading to Washington this weekend to stage a mass storming of the very memorials and monuments that were created in their honor but that they now cannot access because of the government shutdown.

A campaign, Million Vet March on the Memorials, is making the waves of social media, with posters and commentators vowing to make the trek to the nation’s capital this Sunday to send a 9 a.m. message to Capitol Hill:

“These memorials belong to the American veterans and people,” the group posted on its Facebook page.


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Again, pick and choose what makes the shutdown looks the meanest.

I heard today they are going to add all of the convicts in all of the prisons onto obamacare.

fshnski wrote:Angry and outraged military veterans are heading to Washington this weekend to stage a mass storming of the very memorials and monuments that were created in their honor but that they now cannot access because of the government shutdown.

Some Barry-cades are being lifted because of the smear to The Greatest Generation.

 

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2013/10/08/2748461/members-only-congressional-gyms-deemed-essential-remain-open-during-shutdown/

Of course.

Dozens of House members — including many members of the Tea Party who pushed the government into shutdown over demands to defund Obamacare — live in their offices to save money and use the House gym to shower.

... sounds like a Democrat.

With words of great piety, who fathered this damn anxiety...The Republicans did.